Discussion » Film & TV » Django Unchained

  • Richie
    Richie wrote:
       If  u haven't seen this movie, pls do and let's hear what u think abt it.....Personally I think it was  the perfect intro to my new year.
        I even got a new verb coined out for my personal use....I will be "Djangolizing" any one who tries to get me stuck from here on out...lol
        Jokes aside.....just see d movie and u'll see wat I mean.
  • pommie
    pommie wrote:
  • pommie
    pommie wrote:
    Repetition is the key to success.
  • Sab
    Sab wrote:
    Senselessly exaggerated scenes... Senselessly violent too. I don't like his works since Kill Bill... I loved Reservoir dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown... also loved Natural Born Killer although it wasn't his directing... 

    this is so surrealistic for me. 

    After the "big hunt" was finished with the help of Django (few minutes of the movie) why did the German man risk his life to get back Brünhilda for Django on the first place? Parody of spagetthi westerns... with Franco Nero under the spotlight. 
  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:
    There is nothing typical about a Western primarily set in pre-Civil War Mississippi.

    Keep in mind the genre's post-WWII heyday. Django is informed by Blazing Saddles and Boss Nigger, but I can't think of any Westerns with prominent German protagonists.

    In the winter montage, which is also pretty bizarre for this genre, Django does target practice on a snowman. Because it is white.
  • Sab
    Sab wrote:
    @J@R!$ aka BLACK DYNAMITE: he certainly did. 

    Then why did he take Django to DeCaprio's ranch? To make a risk that those two will be recognizeable by others as they know each other. As it happened. Wasn't unfolded very well, in my opinion. 

    He focused on the dialugues, Forgot to make it believable. Surrealistic like Kill Bill was. Or the Natzi hunters movie... 
  • Peter S 李贝勒
    As usual, Tarantino is perfect! 
    Reservoir dog, Pulp fiction, Jackie brown, kill bill, inglorious bastard and now Django Unchained...
    My favorite movie maker...

    @ Sab,
    it's a troll, right?

    @ saintro
    typical western movie???

    it talks about racism, but it's not racist, in fact it's the opposite.

    that's why Tarantino is Tarantino

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:
    During the climax when Candie realizes his guests are plotting against him and he slams the table in anger, actor DiCaprio accidentally cuts his hand on glass and doesn't break character. Smearing the blood on Brumhilda's face was totally improvised. True story.

    Tarantino films contain many examples of villains and anti-heroes who, despite being cold-blooded killers, possess consistent codes of ethics and show humanity at the most bizarre moments. Schultz agreed to help Django to rescue Brumhilda because he was so impressed with Django's help in tracking the Brittle brothers early on (remember when he calls him Siegfried?), and his hatred of the institution of slavery drives him to shoot Candie instead of just shaking his hand, walking away, and cutting his losses.

    Such outlaw morality works perfectly well in Django Unchained because abolitionists were considered utterly villainous even in the North where slavery was illegal for sociopolitical (not moral!) reasons. The protagonists in classic Westerns typically defend a society in which have no real stake; with Django, Tarantino does unto this conventional formula as Marx did unto Hegel's dialectic.

    I'm afraid Sab's stupidity is completely sincere.
  • Sab
    Sab wrote:
    J@R!$ aka BLACK DYNAMITE : No, I meant why the Dr. took Django to the plantation and risk that they can figure out their connection. Of course Django would not able to go there alone  :))

    The skull destroying part was just total forced... not natural, it could never happens... they guy save a skull shows it is valuable to him, and will destroy it as a demonstration in front of two guests. 

    Fights until deaths?? Isn't enough that Franco Nero lost the bet already, why would anybody agree to lose it's fighter as well. I mean after it was an obvious defeat... It is just for senseless violent, I could continue this list forever, I just simply watched it, it was entertaining, but it never could gain any similar emotions or thoughts like I feel after a Robert Altman or a DeSica movie or some other classics. 

    I think his first movies were more entertaining to me, and more serious, because they were amazing stories but still slightly believable ... But with Kill Bill it turned to surrealistic ... totally fairy tales. The Briganty was a total nonsense for me. Just like From dusk till dawn... stupid vampires... 

    And I don't have preconceptions towards to him, since I loved Reservoir Dogs when I rented out on VHS in 1993 almost every month...

    Well, possible reason that I am more critical, maybe because I have studied movies 
    and film aestheticism. Or just because I have a obsession to observe and catch reality, it is MUCH harder, than come up with random crazy ideas... And my favorites are mostly B&W movies... 

    Magdalena: Pulp Fiction? Of course!! I witnessed nearly all its situations in my real life too... 

    I would have put out the scene when Mia (?) drew a square into the air in the car to Vincent... Without that it could have been a (bit exaggerated but still) theoretically possible story... as I said a "documentary" of the era I've lived in as well :) 
  • Sab
    Sab wrote:
    "his hatred of the institution of slavery drives him to shoot Candie instead of just shaking his hand, walking away, and cutting his losses." 

    You are really think he could have walk away???!!! nativity is a type of stupidity ;) 

    That would be tooooo surreal, that he "commit suicide" just because he doesn't like the guy's moral standards, and cannot bear a lousy handshake and get out with the girl safely, instead risk all of their life....?? Really, you think that? He knew he will be shot dead, so he took the first chance.

    I am sorry I don't know you, and this won't change, but in my opinion YOU have infinite stupidity :)
    Now, we are even on this shallow judgment issue. Any more constructive suggestion? :) 
  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:
    > You are really think he could have walk away???!!!

    I surreally think he could have walked away, because it's a Tarantino flick and Candie conforms to a similar archetype of outlaw morality: the Southern gentleman. Candie would never have allowed his men to kill them in his home. That's what lynch mobs are for, and the heroes had confidence that they could have gotten away safely, if not $12,000 poorer and tainted by direct involvement in a transaction of the worst institution known to the civilized world. They feared the shame of being involved in the slave trade far moreso than certain death.

    > That would be tooooo surreal

    Like foiling a robbery in a fast food restaurant just to get a leather wallet that says "Bad Mother Fucker" on it and letting the thieves go with everyone's money? Or maiming a whole yakuza sect in a sword fight with colors fading to black and white? Or locking Hitler and the Nazi leadership in a movie theater and killing everyone inside? Clearly, Tarantino has established himself as an auteur realist, and Django undid all of that.

    > He knew he will be shot dead, so he took the first chance.
    Totally contradicted by his last words.
    Pay attention, shitbreath.

    > Any more constructive suggestion?

    Yeah. Fucking kill yourself. Your ignorance is a threat to humanity.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    I thought this was a bloody great movie, as long as you don't attempt to expect to gain any sort of insightful commentary on slavery (which some people seem to want).

    It's all blood and gore, great dialogue and, of course, very well shot.  I think most Tarantino movies are excellent, but I get mildly riled when he is set up as some kind of genius. To me is more like a truly awesome student of film, with a great sense of humour and an exceptional flair for dialogue.

    I don't usually get much more from his movies than being massively entertained, which is enough for me really. Sure, it would be interesting if he made something that stretched what he does a bit, challenged himself a bit more, but presume he is happy making the brilliantly cartoonish films that he makes.
  • Sab
    Sab wrote:
    @十三不靠 : low class, low life, you low on everything man~~ feel sorry for you ;)

    sorry, I missed to read your mental vomit 
  • K5-35
    K5-35 wrote:
    Tirantino and his Chinese wife are out of date. Typical dude's fantasy.

    I have just seen Triple X on HBO, the Russian chicks in the Anarchy 99 are pretty cool.

    On a separate note, the leading role in XXX looks like someone who used to be active in the pornographic industry but I am not so sure since China has blocked all websites who refused to bargain with the Gov. Aha.

  • MPA茉茉
    MPA茉茉 wrote:
    i did wonder the same question,that when Dr.king took him to the plantation where he could assume that his wife couldn't hold breath when she saw her husband..and how Stephen be smarter than his boss...well if he get much intellegency and sensitivity he could possiblly not got killed in that way in the end....
    although ,what i m saying is not how to judge a movie like that...since its just a movie,should be treated far more than only judgement...no mention it is an amazing one..
    i love the movie, and we both know u cant focus or critisize on lil plots or unreasonable behavings.....even the end a lil bit lame compare with the begining and the whole stroy following.....b u t....i have to say this is the best movie for me in the year...music \meaningful\mucles\marvelous!!!

    Expecting more!!
  • pommie
    pommie wrote:
    I can't believe that Bryce preferred Van Patten's business card.

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