I am sort of fed up with this city, recently... sort of Home sick ... i wonder that maybe you all have reasons to hate beijing, or a Big one reason not to live here....

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Hahahaha ... only one? I can think of quite a few ... but whatever you are going through or thinking, let's talk offline, ok?

TOO MUCH DRAMA!!!!

I missing the ancient world~~back in time to ppl only use gesture，bodilauguage to communicate。good~right？

The irony of you writing what you wrote is too much for me CiaraL. Anyways, I want some of what you are smoking...

I missing the ancient world~~back in time to ppl only use gesture，bodilauguage to communicate

then try with the sign language of deaf people, or also look for a neanderthal survival into the modern age and be friends

1. Vicky

The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Jedi weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.

smokers are free to kiss their cigarets even in the night club.

Beijing is getting too big and out of hand with time

Pollution; both air and noise. That's probably the main reason I don't live in Beijing.

Pollution, You will never see a blue sky

Beijing is a drug. People complain but stay here. If it wasn't a good drug, you would just leave, right 马克?

Traffic Jam

Pollution

Sometimes people being like a cynic

come on!! 北京话牛比

马克， just go back to your own country if u are tired of Beijing, and i am sure after 2 weeks at home, you will start miss  china and beijing again. I promise you, you will miss beijing as soon as you back to ur own country. Thats what other foreingers did all the times. 

in my spainish ears sounds very cool, because we love rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ratón, tigre, roedor, corredor, rapido, rabia, rabano, redondo, crio, cangrejo.... God bless the r !!!!

五道口儿,三里屯儿,,,,,,  天安门儿 :P (i know i know in this case nooooo)

you said: sometimes I dont even understood it, well, in my case, this is the most of the time XD

Beijing sucks for good snacks!!!! Give me western snacks without the Jenny Lou price tags. I just got home from my first trip to the USA (very different to say the least and I'm an Aussie), i missed Beijing while I was there, but now that I'm home i'm not sure how I feel about being back. PS I agree with the whole BJ is a drug......very hard to stay and very hard to leave.

the spanish -r- is similar to the italian way and I only speak good the old art of 骂人 :P

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And being a little motherfucker, i don´t know why some of you complain about the crowds everywhere here, they are the thing that make -big- this city, a big cake for the companies and investments.

A lot of people here imply a la lot of demand of jobs, so the bosses and companies can down the salaries, because (using a frequent expression) if you don´t want this job other person will want this job. So benefits and plusvalia everywhere. GDP overexciting.

drammaaaaaaaaaa.. you dont see the bad part of beijing till you do your highschool here

hm, even though we all live in Beijing, i wonder how many of you guys are really from Beijing. It seems that all those young Chinese staying in Beijing now are creating a new form of the local Beijing slang.

Exsample: a Beijinger say 你丫、丫（=他/她） but never use 我丫 —— or we dont put the 儿form everywhere, especially to location names that seems to be more important or where a 儿form seems to be rather disturbing: we say 广渠门儿, but never say 天安门儿, maybe because the term 门儿 is often refered to a smaller or unimportant door and not a real big gate. Especially in case 前门, if you say 前门儿 it actually means the front door and not the former official south gate of Beijing City.

i dont know maybe ppl think it is funny to use the 儿form everywhere they want, fine. but maybe it helps to know that this form wasnt designed to be used without reason and principles.

webslave said: i dont know maybe ppl think it is funny to use the 儿form everywhere they want

maybe some of these people are  from 东北, also they like 儿, like in 服务员儿!!

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Hahaha ... 儿? This seems similar to what is sometimes known as 懒音 in Cantonese ...

叮噹叔叔. 懒音 ? i can not find it using internet O_o

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Ah ... how can I explain it? When you learn Mandarin ...

* suddenly the Alps appeared, and Auntie Julie running down the mountain with the kids *

Let's start at the very beginning
A very good place to start.
When you read you begin with—
A B C
When you sing you begin with do re mi
Do re mi?

* back to reality, or whatever this is *

... well, as I was about to say, Mandarin comes in 4 "notes" (probably not the right word, since I have never learned Mandarin properly), whereas Cantonese comes in 8 (this is probably wrong too, but that's not the point), and many "lazy" people (including myself) sometimes speak the wrong one, and we call it 懒音 ...

Using a very, very bad example in Mandarin ... 窝 and 我 ... these two are both "wo", but they have different tones ... if you say the wrong one, we call it 懒音 in Cantonese (or perhaps ONLY in Hong Kong?) ...

* back to the Alps now ... Auntie Julie, wait for me *

"taxi drivers   ~ stupid, retard, drive round and round for extra bucks"

In my experience, the only ones that do this are the 黑车 (black taxi). I've never had a regular cabbie try to rip me off, with the exception of the very first taxi I ever took here (just walked up to the guy with a wad of cash and pointed to an address on a business card. I didn't know it was only a block away...)

The legal cabbies are almost always super-nice, actually - a few times, they've turned off their meter and not charged me anything cos they took me to the wrong place, which was almost always my fault to begin with.

@ (潇然) Adolfo Secades

"maybe some of these people are  from 东北, also they like 儿, like in 服务员儿!!"

you know before the Manchus fall in Centrual China and took Beijing as there governmental residence, the language around Beijing area in the Ming Dynasty rather sounded rather like nowadays Zhejiang dialect. The Beijing slang we know now started to take shape after the royals and emperor family settle down in Beijing and slowly adopted many elements of the Han Chinese culture, including spoken and written language. It took not long that a new fashionable slang spread out from the forbidden city and royal families, that has become known now as Beijing dialect. Since the Manchus came from Dongbei area, you will find a lot trails and traits that must had their impact on the spoken language.

So even though the history of Beijing as Capitol is about 1000 years, the real Beijing culture we are familiar now is basically for the most formed during the last 400 years.

Yeah, I've never really had a problem with Beijing cabbies. I think many expats confuse moonlighting waidiren upstarts who have no idea where the fuck they're going with institutionalized efforts to scam them.

Dudes driving cabs who aren't real drivers? In my city? It's more likely than you think.

But Korean cabbies take top honors for coolness.

I got wasted once in Seoul and was too drunk to find my (love) motel. I got into a cab and told him the address, which was about 100m away.

"Don't worry about it," said Mr. Polite Cabbie as he turned off the meter. "It happens to all of us."

webslave@ thanks for your explanation ;)

you are welcome, i guess even many Beijingers dont know this. A friend who are really into History told me that. I also saw it on TV when they were talking about Beijing history.

Sabina

I am beijing girl ,,i was hate beijing as so many people there,,,so many pressure,,but when i really stay in other city which is strange for me,,,i really start miss her,,,we all complain..bula bula bula ,,..

Zestxfactor, 你如果遇到我的青春和梦想，请告诉它们我受不了了，已经跑走了。希望它们跟着我走。

听起来你很自我,,但换个角度又有点沮丧

The thing i hate the most in beijing is the elevator at the airport T3. I bet it's the slowest on earth!

The rest is ok ^_^

I think the only thing I don't like about china is the internet speed and Google Image Search. The rest is easy to avoid if you just learn how.

1. Rude

2. Smell

#1: complaining expats.

But ya know what else really grinds my gears? The lack of pedestrian right of way.

I'm not just talking about the assholes in black Audis who honk their horns and speed through busy hutongs or make left turns when masses of people who are walking have a green light to cross the street.

I mean commuters in the subways, too. People stop walking in busy areas, blissfully unaware that there are people behind them. On the escalators, one should stand to the right. On the left, you should fucking climb. Slower traffic should keep to the right, just like on the roads. Show some common courtesy to the people behind you who have to smell your farts.

At the airport and in the subway transfer stations, they're called moving walkways for a fucking reason. They're for walking. Faster than if you were walking on stationary ground. They're not fucking stopping standways for holding hands with your girl/boyfriend who's wearing an identical t-shirt. Fuck you. I've got places to be, and I will stick thumbs up both your asses if you get in my way.

In b4 "too many people in China". This shit doesn't happen in Hong Kong.

after i read this topic

i realise how much i love beijing

reverse the question... what do u like in beijing?

only 2 things easy job and mei nu...

otherwise

pollution, crazy traffic jam, shagua who understand nothing, low cultural level, dictatorship, police, corruption, no freedom of speech, people who push u, people always try to cheet u, what about the human right? etc etc

stop complaining and travel a little, then you'll remember how AMAZING beijing is. i fxxking love this city!!

AM, if you think this is bad, you obviously haven't been to Lanzhou..

stop to compare china with china. Cause (on my taste), the 3 towns in china are beijing shang hai and hong kong, the rest is the country side...

U have to compare capital with capital.

So, i really prefere, Berlin, London, New York or Paris, for exemple... the quality of life in these towns is really better than in beijing...

@Pierre B Stone...  wrote: "...the rest is the country side"

May I ask where else in China you have been?

...What I just realized by this thread, there might be plenty of reasons to dislike Beijing, but not one true reason to hate this city! ★

@ camilla

i went to a lof places in china, the list is too long.

i m agree 'hate' is a little bite too stong.

Very often i think "lao wai" who are living in beijing have a  kind of sinusoid feeling about the town. U love it, then u hate it, then u love it, then fed up again...me and several of my friends are like that...

what about U all? and what about U chinese people?

The things the white folks here mention thou, is not Beijing in general.. But China.. There was a chinese girl here earlier who mentioned she "hate the beijing hukou system", thats a great problem white people for sure can be happy they dont have!

@ camilla

but we have visa...

@ Pierre

Yes, for China. I picked out something which is actually special for Beijing ;) Thou it's not fair to compare visa with hukou system.. If you have your visa, you dont hava any trouble.. I see the trouble of leaving to HK get new visa etc etc... I know how its like! ;) But we chose this as a part of living in China.. Being Chinese, in a city in China and get trouble because you have a "farmer"-hukou (Coming from a smaller city..) that affect their living a lot more than those countless times we renew our visas!

@camilla!

welcome to china a country of equality and human right!!! then if they don t want to give u a visa, it s just like "fuck u" u even don t have the right to go somewhere in china...

and it happens, so i don t think that it s less or more than the hukou system...

it s just a bad system as they use to do here...

@楼上: Are you the nut who believes that China blocked Facebook to prevent terrorist attacks? Can´t find the respective thread anymore. Anyway, your comments always make my day ..

too many waidi shabi,let their kids runing around in restaurants,pee on mall floor,spit on street,play music outloud with cellphone on bus,biggest contribution from waidi shabi to this town is,they steal your bikes.