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  • Jimi
    Jimi wrote:

    Although everyone is pissed off about the 2 year old girl issue. I know there are a lot of good people here as well but i think they are afraid to help someone.

    i can't believe that if i help someone, that maybe they would try to sue me. haha go ahead. i have nothing. you want my phucking guitar you douche bag?

    china really needs to set up some new laws.

    i recall a laowai helping a woman who was stabbed at the shanghai airport. and nobody else helped.

    mofo's are you a bunch of spineless jellyfish?


    I once helped an old woman who was being attacked by a young guy. nobody helped her but i grabbed the fucker by his throat and pinned him against the wall until the cops came.

    someone has to stand up for the rights of victims. and if the victims are going to threaten a lawsuit to those who help them. well then that is just too bad because it only perpetuates a society of selfishness.

    shameful man just shameful.

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    [...] I once helped an old woman who was being attacked by a young guy. nobody helped her but i grabbed the fucker by his throat and pinned him against the wall until the cops came.

    Yep, you can do such things in China, In USA, you probably would have been shot...

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    It's easy for us to say "I would..." "I'm sure Americans would..." etc. in reaction to the tragic callousness in this week's YouTube poop, but actually being in one of those situations is a different matter.

    If you believe in the fantasy that is "human nature," you must accept the simple truth that no matter the situation, only a tiny fraction of people go out of their way to help strangers.

    Altruism is a rare and immeasurably valuable human quality and there isn't enough of it in the world for you to make evaluations about different cultures based on the frequency of its manifestations.

  • Kent Bekkavik
    Kent Bekkavik wrote:

    Ditto. "I would" kiss that girl, "I am sure you would.". And I am a pop. Does not matter...

    Read about social proof and pluralistic ignorance. An example of Catherine Genovese is well described in literature.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    In Soviet Russia, victim help you!

  • K5-35
    K5-35 wrote:

    God helps those who help themselves.

    Except demanding other people's help, how about being more attentive to their kids? I have seen too many Chinese parents leaving their 1-2 year old kids unattended, running wild in the street, exposed to car accidents, child offenders and poisonous chemicals. Some of them just aren't qualified as parents. 

  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:

    1. If in doubt, invoke God.

    2. If this fails, 'blame the parents!'

  • Mengmeng
    Mengmeng wrote:

     I like people calling for actions, but don't encourage others to do stupid things. Extreme encouragement can lead to other tragedy too. There was once a time the spirit of Lei Feng was very popular, you can find cases that someone who couldn't swim tried to save drowning people, people tried to extinguish fire barehanded etc. I don't think these heroic deeds should be praised. It's stupid to lose more lives if it can be avoided in the first place. And in another case, I have seen a group of people beat a thief and humilated him. I am sure these attackers believed they had done the right thing. 

    It's natural for people to have fear, nothing shame to admit it. Be practical, for most people they should first program this code in their mind: call the police or ambulance 110 or 120, you can do this with nearest IC phone if you don't want to interrupt your weibo. Shame on those who only video an accident. I didn't watch the xiaoyueyue video.

    Don't blame parents as if they play negligence on purpose. Look aroud, most of the time, it's grandparents looking after kids, the parents have to work to support their family. Do you expect grandparents can running around and catching the kids anywhere? Not many people can afford nanny to help, and even young and strong people can't make sure everything is OK for the kids.

  • K5-35
    K5-35 wrote:

    Obviously, someone got it wrong, the idiom involved "the God" but didn't invoke "the God", which part did you fail to understand?  

    Fact Sheets:

    @ No one called the emergency: 1 Emergency is a paid service in China; 2 Public services like emergency aid is invisiable in a country with 1.3 billion people?

    @ Parents negligence: 1. It is a "Vehicle Route" 2. The girl is under 2 year old without guard, regardless of who the guardians are, parents or grandparents, they were not performing their duties at that time, as a fact.

    @ No passer-by should touch the injured girl: 1. She was run over by a truck, with ceberal spinal damage, touching her would be subject to prosecution of "negligence causing death"; 2. Please read your first aid manual before first aid, just in case you will go to jail for it.

    @ Media and the public address this case via the moral approach, as everytime, all the time, because moral approach answers all questions about irresponsiblities and chaos.

    P.S.  Bystander apathy is just a clinche of pop psychology, read something about it.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    @Persephone, Your idiom directly invoked "God," a proper noun equivalent to "The God". Otherwise one would say "A god." But I think it's a rather moot point and rather petty of you to split hairs over the nuances of what was an otherwise admirably concise piss-take of your woefully inappropriate invocation of said idiom.

    Or if you'd prefer to converse in the clumsy idioms of English-speaking peasants, here's one, from my granny: what's that got to do with the price of rice in China?

    "She was run over by a truck, with ceberal spinal damage"

    That's something a person would only learn through closer examination.

    "P.S.  Bystander apathy is just a clinche of pop psychology, read something about it."

    PROTIP: A cliche is an overused expression. There's another word for when an expression is overused in scientific endeavors.

    In fact, it might even indicate that it's something that's been rigorously subjected to empirical scrutiny for a couple of decades, yet gets ignored by most of pop psych because behaviorism is not sexy to laypeople who are used to non-cognitive conceptions of psychology.

    BTW, I heard Eli Roth is doing the Milgram experiments again on the PooTube. *sigh* Still no VPN...

  • K5-35
    K5-35 wrote:

    Your points taken, Dando.

    But as I am a amatuer Judaism, there is no "a God" but only "the God" in my vocabulary. I believe invoke means either "cite" or "appeal to" where in this case, I mean "appeal to". The moral of this idiom is obviously focus what people can do, instead of appealing to God, ergo, I don't think there is any misunderstanding. Of course, you may praise your superiority of Internet freedom via porns or alternative research, or the superiority of your native speaker's sense of language talents, which I have nothing to contribute.

    Her injury doesn't need a closer examination, if you ever learn basic first aid or forensic medicine, it is pretty easy to tell.

    I insist that the issues of my fact sheets worth more discussion than moral critisicm or surprise.

    I have no much time on reading everyone's opinions and if you were talking about the Great FireWall, I can assure you that we don't only have VPN but also now the first class Internet Survellaince and Control Technology, with IPR. 

    In no sentense did I say Bystander Apathy is not a problem, it is a research subject, therefore, you probably needn't pour out all you know about it right there.

    Such things happened in the West too, you just don't discuss it so warmly, because only the Chinese are cold blooded and irresponsible.  :)

    P.S. What's wrong with American peasants? Since your country is a big argricultural exporter, I thought peasants were quite important, or you just disrrespect them like what we do here? That's another thing in common then. 

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