Depends on are you a good gal?
Hahahahaha ... wild? irresponsible? Can you describe what did you mean? My guess is that it depends on where you met them, whom you met, and how did you interact with them ...
Hahahahaha ... I cannot say I have met too many, but I imagine so ...
go to library ;P
Hahahahaha ... it is not about the RIGHT way, as there is not general rule about this ... it depends mostly on yourself ... at the moment, without checking your profile, my guess is that you are between 20 and 25?
Most foreigners are perverts.
(continued) ... the way you said it, it sounded like you dont have a large social circle, so you cannot really be too old ... hence I guessed that age group ... anyone could have guessed it anyway :)
Hahahaha ... to a large extent, I dont agree ... if you dont meet the bad ones, you would never know who are the good ones :)
... it's like, if you always eat one type or flavour of food, you would never find out about the others ...
It seems you are new here, you've been targeted already, there will be a Bad luck party, please join in, this is the best way wlib members meet. Another gathering is Wet party? Something like that, I guess you've got to dance till U wet more than other girls than you become a champion, in that way, you'll become a celebrity then your inbox will be full of PM.
Welcome on board.
Hahahahahaha ... hahahahaha ...
I don't think so.No foreigner,also no beijing people.
Hahahahaha ... Lee ... it is so unlike you to hijack a thread, and even more so to ask for cooking tips ...
... if she is OK with dairy, I suggest you tried to baking with cheese and cream ... make sure you boil them first ...
... if she is on diet, and/or prefers less oily ... or if you are too lazy ... just simmer it in water, drain it, then pour a little olive oil and salt on top, and toss a little bit ...
... if you are REALLY lazy, and as an extension to this last one ... get some carrot pieces, beans, broccoli, also simmer them in water, drain the mixed vege, throw some salt on top, and serve it with meat, sausages or pasta ...
Read and understand Lao Lee's message..."quote" there are many many different foreigners from many different cultures, backgrounds, situations and countries all living in beijing.... they all go there for different reasons and are very very different people in regards to lifestyle, life choices and decicion making ethics......"unquote" thats the fact! Thanks @Lao Le
What do you think, are most Mainland Chinese living in Hongkong are bad guys? or didn't you mean the same answer is valid for them as well?!
@Ariellll (hope enough lll, sorry forgot my reading lense...)
I shame to be pointet by such a question, THAT IS Racism!
(continued) ... you can get a China-made microwave with oven function for around or less than 1k ... but if you dont have one for the moment, the boiling is really too simple ... and only because I like cheese, you can also toss the boiled cauliflower with mozzarella or parmasan, and some finely chopped parsley ...
Only one hour you got about 40 posts . Now i think you can see which one is good and which is bad.IT sort out like this :Lao Lee who is not that gentel to you but all said the reality and right things to you , and if you try to accept some ,you may see they are really golden value things inside for you to learn about more foreigers. And Uncle DD is most the soft one when he talk to people , as you see, he already gave you magic answer.
And on the other hand, birds of a feather flock together, what do you think about the "Bed Tyger" & God fater" & "High priest"? Are they good by your side?
stop, hahaha, hey, its truly hard to follow without my lenses, even i use windows help...hahaha, happy to see coming back for the good sides of live. I got something about rabbit? Who have a good recipe??
,ooohhhh i miss my grandma's one...Rabbit mit broad noodels and cream sauce...
sorry, i need to leave now, become hungry, haha
Ladies and Gentleman, don't stop posting (especially recipe's :-)) may be we can show Ariel+4 the good side of us foreigners and convince her that only 0,00567% are bad guys ;-)
haha as always ,play with yourself.Evan
hahahhaaha I ｔｈｉｎｋ you are more clever than me to understand more. far more. We should post another thread about cooking or recipe.
YES! They are!
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 Of course nothing can stop you from being a bad guy?
A Good gal is a good gal at every not just @ Sanlitun or wudaokou ....................................................................................................
all I have met are great so far :)
@Ms Stephanie, you are such a lucky girl, there is non like you in this WLIB.
@Lovina, sorry about what happened to your friend, She should have listened to High Priest advice.
@Jenny King: And on the other hand, birds of a feather flock together, what do you think about the "Bed Tyger" & God fater" & "High priest"? Are they good by your side?
How was your date with the Godfather when you guys went for swimming? Was he a good man? Was there a happy ending? Someone said you have changed your sex orientation, I just wonder how you guys dated.
Let's not forget the fact, that the reason you see foreigners here is because they came to here for study... hence they are too young for settle down. It's not irresponsibility but the naivity of Chinese girls who think the foreigners will not leave the country and everything behind. The people who works here mostly have family here, if there is a wife at homeno question why they seems irresponsible when they cheat somebody. Foreginers are varied like Chinese, but the foreigners we know here mostly came for special reason, and therefore behave according to their purpose. So, local girls better accept if they want young white fellas, then the risk they will be dropped is high, unless the man has more heart than career speculations and will stay for the girl or take the girl with them... These options are unlikly if they can have fun here, they don't want to be lonely during the time they study here.
So, girls don't be naive. When you date with a young foreigner, accept the fact that it might stand short time, if you like that way go ahead. If you afraid to have broken heart, look after a steady guy, who is already settled down in China.
hahahaha some girls never listen or learn 'cause they overate their charms
Thanks for the sermon. Being yourself from America, your understanding of American standards of decorum is truly impressive. Maybe one day you will understand the idiocy of your judgmental tone. In fact, couples wearing matching shirts is cute, paying taxes gives me a license to throw shit on the ground, and answering your cell during a face-to-face conversation with a boring person is not only acceptable, but morally imperative. I would not have objected to you or Lao Lee's comments had they been appropriately signed with the following signature: "-petty little twat"
LoL ... depends, i've a intimate friendship with a foreign girl for one year and a harf and she broke my heart at the end, and another for more than 4 years friendship, never change...
it's depends the conversation maybe , to force their serious attention , but i do hard make a conclusion about what is bad or good. make sure not to be tricked it's oky.
presonnally , i prefer date foreign girls , ^^
u r an adult, why should others to be responsible to u, u gotta figure out what u want and expect first, and then u will know if the person u meet is right or wrong for u, u really can't set up your own standards and expect any guy to be like the same, (the type of guy u daydream about is probably from some korean soap opera, they don't exist, to tell u the truth, and they seem pretty goofy)
i don't quite understand what u mean by wild, actually that type of wild beast could be attractive sometimes
assholes can be from anywhere, i take foreigner as ppl from anywhere in the world but china, there r more than 200 countries, it cracks me up that only chinese guys r responsible and non-wild
lastly, young guys want fun normally (u call them irresponsible), aged guys r more stable, this is scientific fact, or human nature, chinese ppl r more insecure based on the background and tradition we have, they all pursue the same thing and don't make their own decision, that's why they r more suitable for u
The girl upstairs has got some brain~If most of my students and young people I've met can have this kind of independant spirit and sensible attitude towards life and society, I will be happy not to nag arround like a sad old man~
Feel really upset for Lao Lee's crooked sensitivity about Chinese people's attitude to foreigners----a suggestion: you either adjust your twisted nature to a right extent or buy a plane ticket to leave China as soon as possible----we don't have many good psycharitrists here~~
... one point about "responsibility" ...
Arielllll ... it does look like that you were involved in a relationship or some sort, but it did not go well, right? what was your initial expectation, and did the guy(s) know anything about it? ...
Whether Chinese or foreigners, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, or the type of relationship, if you want to have (and keep) a relationship with a person, the minimum that you will ever need to do is "talk", especially for a long-term one, and more so with a "romantic" one ... again, too many variables and too many factors to consider ...
... hope it helps ...
'talk' sometime helps,not always,maybe it has to have the feelings and emotions(the real),the basis,also hardly if meet the right one to talk.
some of them are not the bad guys,they are assholes...
"traditional Chinese customs" --看到这个，我笑了。Do we preserve traditional Chinese customs nowadays?
Tradtional Chinese customs said:
1. Respect others, be considerates, give convenience to others.
2. Love nature, obey natural laws.
3. Be strict to myself, be generous to others.
4. Cherish the food you can get, don't waste.
Like law, everyone knows all the items, but there are still people break the laws. The difference is people won't get punished by breaking customs. Especially breaking the rules is fashionable nowadays.
Traditional culture didn't say no sex before marriage, it said: sex is the ceremony of the combination of bodies and souls of two people. it didn't say lovers should wear couple-shirts, it didn't say man have to hold bag's for woman.
As an ill-travelled, unseasoned, uneducated country-aunt, Chinese culture is the only education I get. But I also break codes: I don't eat splanchnic organs. I don't respect all people, I only respect those who respect themselves. I will let the phone vibrate for a while before turning it down, so the other side can know I am informed but not available.
Back to the topic, 我又笑了. I am short-sighted, I can't see pure while and black, I can only see gray with various tones.
The number of Chinese people I have met is far, far greater than the number of foreigners OP has met.
I would presume this is true for most expats residing in Beijing. Chances are, we know more of you than you know of us. Unless, of course, you think Western cultural imperialism and the inundation with Western films and music makes you experts on Western values, in which case I will add that I've been watching kung fu movies for a very long time. Where's my honorary degree in sinology, eh?
But I digress. My point is that by simple virtue of being strangers in the most normal place on Earth, our generalizations have a comparatively stronger objective foundation. We have a comparatively larger amount of anecdotal evidence to support half-baked conclusions about the moral values of our benevolent hosts.
We observe thousands of Chinese people every day. How many foreigners do you talk to in a day?
And yet, when a foreigner poses an obnoxiously cuntish rhetorical question like, "are most Chinese greedy/racist/dishonest?," (note the comparative specificity, not just "bad people") without demonstrating appropriate subjective knowledge, you can rest assured that other foreigners will leap at the opportunity to correct him for such intellectual laxity.
When I observe the locals' gentle responses to the OP, I see this thread as confirmation that Chinese people only beat their children when no one else is watching.
hahahhahahahhahaa We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning. It it really true. We can see Lao lee & scott just gave some contradict opinions then make people speak out more.
@ Yanni yes you right , it depends on the guy's attitude and of course we should him first.
Hahaha Mengmeng you are cute.
Uncle when your mama will visite you ?
hahahah Uncle you want to talk Dando to see your parent, ^^
(continued) ... tentative: November ...
Hahahaha ... he was the one who said "Chinese people only beat their children when no one else is watching", but he had obviously not met my mother ... ok, maybe she does not do that now, but she did when we were young :)
hahahahahhahahah I think we were in the same boat, Freemasonry, My farther beat me when i was young that just because i too hard to handel in their ways and they can not learn my way to communicate with me .And he did not hide when he heat us, and there will be no one to stop him , cause they all think :老子打儿子天经地义。：）
And i remember when i was young one day my farther beat me with a stick and my mom saw it and was afraid i would hurt too much and said gentel to him ," lao lee "(my farther's nick name^^) use this ---and gave a bamboosplint to him .hahaha I was taken a aback and quickly ran away haha cause my mom did not know that bamboosplit it is much more hurt than the stick .haha
…………Haha Laoleeyou are welcome , i believe they understand more behind their words but they just don't show it.
well "we can usually learn more...................and inhabit learning." This is a thesis form a GRE book. hope people can discuss more.
An other thing why administrators can not use some moreFTP of computer for this web.? It's too slow.
yes , It is no use to say it alot, take a break ^^
Uncle:OH Did you see thea lot of posts that i posted on ?I did not mean to do that ,it was because this web too slow then i click the button a lot of times , so it showed i said it again and again and i spended more than 5 minutes to deleted them.
yeah kulo was right..foreigners dont smell good, its the perfume they wear do. u go for them for the languages, better spend money then u wont get fucked n fucked up at the same time.
All men are bad, all girls are good! End of discussion! let's have fun! :)
史大龙(Rick) But the circle is a pretty small one, especially from this web site and on from here I would have to say MOST...2 hours ago
史大龙(Rick) You are correct, that is why I said on this site... in this small circle, not the total 100K laowai in Beijing... Just read the majority of comments that are left and blogs left on here. I am not referring to the ones that majority don't have contact with. And Don't think just because they work in an embassy they are not bad apples...10 minutes ago
Sab I don't know here the foreigners so I can't express opinion. I try to avoid to create stereotypes in any fields of life. You might right about "these" people here... but maybe just some "bad" ones are more active than the good ppl. Guys who fooling around have more time to spend on this site4 minutes agodelete
Sab Those who found a partner, like I was here inactive for two years although I have the account here, they don't come often and make silly comments or pushing girls. So what I see is a few guys are more exposed than the rest of us.. And the negative judgments comes because of them... :)
Hahahaha ... admins, looks like the "wrapping" has yet to be fixed in the forum? Sab's post has disfigured it, and it is likely to get even more distorted soon :)
Sab ... heehee ... it's not 100% true, for one, I do come here often to make silly comments and I am also married ...
Actually, my guess is that Ariel did not meet her particular group of foreigners via this site, but perhaps from other social circles (e.g. clubs or bars, or Starbucks on Thursday) ... being that the number of foreigners on this site is but a small percentage of the 100k of foreigners in China (or Beijing?), and Ariel is a new ID, unless, she already has another one?
(continued) ... which was why I suggested before, in relation to all the crap appearing on the forum, or perhaps the issue of "fake ID", that new members should be blocked from commenting in the forum, until he/she has been at least 3 or 6 months old ...
... my assumption here is that most idiots who created "fake IDs" would probably forget the email addresses after 3 or 6 months ...
@Ada queen: hahahaha~just know today~foreigner man lie their age too
Does that imply that Chinese used to do it? I agree with u, if you get hooked up by a laowai, ask him his passport first.
Hahahahaha ... not many believes me either when I said I am 40+ ...
Hahahahaha ... maybe I am, maybe I am not ... you have the same "problem" anyway ...
(continued) ... huh?
This thread is classic Tammy.
"He's such a player!"
"Is he a player??"
@Jenny&King, Is Godfather a Bad man? How was your date at the swimming pool?
@LZ In general, yes. However, I would argue that most of the foreigner hang-outs (especially Sanlitun and the greater Gongti area) tend to attract bad girls – or at least closet bad girls.
Outside of those areas, who knows. Probably the same mix of bad and good you find in the general populace.
@Bedtyger, I was late on that night, so I guess it went on one on one. I came when the table was being cleaned, no leftovers for me:)
Wow! U've got well update bro. Good shepherd no? What about what DingDong does publicly?
Hahahahaha ... hahahaha ... I am glad that certain "things" dont change much around here ...
I cannot speak for other foreigners, but I can say that I am damn good at being bad : P
hahahahhahahhahahha i went to swim at a pool? haha it is a famerhose pool and you guys did a great made up job , come on , continue to make up some new things.
yes yes maybe
but i am good guy
are very nice , some of them .
@Duo Duo, "Am just wondering why the waiter and waitress in their own countries can be high paid teachers in China? Schools in China must be too blind to select the right candidates."
According to your profile and status, you're a recruiter for those schools. As long as we're making arrogant generalizations, I should point out that you're part of the problem. What were you doing before you were headhunting? Certainly not waiting tables. That would be honest work.
The problem with the ESL business is that recruiters are NOT blind. In fact their eyesight is too good and they tend to hire people on the basis of superficial appearances rather than actual qualifications.
most of the foreign guys I've met out here are rapists and child molesters, but they are pretty cool guys all the same (except the french)
Most guys are tedious, whether foreign or Chinese, as for quality or moral standards, guys are not worse or better than girls in the true sense.
Most foreign guys (no offense to gentlemen) I have known in China, I would have to say, have acquired some disspointing quality of "Chinese characteristics", which make them even more tedious, mixed up with their pretense of haughtiness, are completely insufferable.
Randomly, there are a few dolls though. ;)
that is true in some aspect.
Hahahahaha ... I lived abroad so I'm very openminded, obviously, you have not met enough people, and you definitely have not met Dudu ...
(continued) ... hahahaha ... dont be scared ... mwahahahaha ...
"I don't like Americans because they always want to show that they are better than everybody."
Right, but...they are better than everybody. I mean, the world is a diverse place, tons of different cultures and creeds, various races and ethnicities contributing to the good of mankind, but...yeah, no. Americans are best.
BEER AND PUSSY AND SHOOTING STUFF. BALD EAGLE IN YOUR FACE. YEAH WOOO
I'm so much better than everyone that I'm too good for this thread.
...This thread up again?
A bit late to reply Scott, I didn't see it before.
Jesus didn't COPY Confucius, they developed their thought independently. And Jesus didn't discriminate woman. But Confucius wouldn't let you slap his face twice.
Your theory of "modern No. 1 law of Chinese culture" might be right if you have met 10% of Chinese citizens or beijingers, that would be about 2 million in beijing (social study shows that if some social behavior is common for 10% of the community, it can be recognized as a custom, I vaguely remembered 10%?). I am not as sociable as you, the limited people I know either go to work earily to avoid the rush in the subway or live near their offices. I feel sorry about their being abandoned by the new culture.
"Last thing, I lived abroad so I'm very openminded."
I have black friends.
Sorry, it looks like I'm not too good for this thread after all.
"(social study shows that if some social behavior is common for 10% of the community, it can be recognized as a custom, I vaguely remembered 10%?)"
Who showed you that shorthand rule of "social study"? A weird looking old guy outside the subway wearing a long coat?
(continued) ... Dando ... "a weird looking old guy outside the subway wearing a long coat" ... I get offended by that as I have better fashion sense, no? I was not wearing a long coat, I was wearing skin-tight singlets and bike shorts ...
... damn ... now I am talking like Aqua ... very bad vibe in the office today ...
Unfortunately,I have seen many less-disciplined expats in Beijing and somewhere else in China.
But I have known many wonderful ones too.That's to say,there are various people in anywhere.
I, Loo, do solemnly swear that in posting this comment I promise to be nice.
@DD, "I was not wearing a long coat, I was wearing skin-tight singlets and bike shorts ..."
It wasn't Mudanyuan subway station, was it?
(continued) ... ooops ... no ... then dont worry about what I said ... heehee ..
I have yet to arrive,so maybe then?
(continued) ... and my wife has complained many times that I am no longer the same mild mannered Mr Nice Guy when I was in Sydney ... :)
You will note this Chinese professor's view that Chinese girls become "floozies" when they study in France http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/672517/Female-Chinese-students-return-from-France-floozies-judicial-scholar.aspx
Who knows, perhaps a lot of French people are worried about these "wild and irresponsible" and "bad" Chinese... :)
but in this website , i can say most foreigners are bad guys wahahahah
China is seen as a fancy party club from foreign eyes. They come here to play. It’s too easy for them to make money here, especially for English native speakers. They are not too bad if they happen to own the ability to live a good life in a foreign country, like you won’t consider yourself a loser if u struggle to survive in a foreign land. It would be a lot easier for poor foreigners to live in China. Most foreigners here are not belong to upper-class in their own country, but certainly they are not the worst skunks too. Or they are just relocated here temporarily for working reasons.
If that's so, then the whole developing world is a fancy party club; there's no reason to believe China is the only place with the conditions described, @Joligne. Whore-hopping English teachers exist all over Asia. It is the opinion of this sleazy neo-hobo that China receives only top-notch losers. The cream of the crap.
I liked Chinese Exceptionalism back when it was American Exceptionalism, and less butthurty. It just goes to show, China copies only the worst ideas.
Whore-hopping English teachers ? Chinese exceptionalism? elaborate.....pls
maybe not all. but i know a old boy is bad and a liar.
Hey now. You're talking about the foreign expert retirement plan, there, @Scott.
good guys can only be found in kindergarden....
Oh thats so cute to say Joligne
the only Beijing Foreigner i've met is about 10 years ago , i was doing our outside photography shot for homework with two other classmates. so this person became our subject . well , if they are bad or good , i do not know .
@Evan 爱文 , as u said Basically yes , and you are one of those '' yes '' , so we can conclude that u wanna be a '' Bad " guy , as the rule No. One : '' Girls like bad guys '' . So this release you a potential willing : '' the public lover ''
差不多. Ahem, badass is spoken as one word, too.
Bad boys and bad girls are good people.
From my understanding, Chinese girls seem to meet most of the foreign guys from only two places:
The internet Vics
So yeah of course they're gonna be bad guys
Yes. Since I'm in China, I have noticed my christian moral is decreasing, I can not find a proper hard social pressure to remain civic.
I want do very bad things: Don´t offer my seat to old people and pregnant woman, steal the toys of the kids in the park, spit on bikers, fart in the subway during rush hour, teach little kids how to say -puta-.... many many things
A "Christian morale" is a paradox in itself ;)
how is that? Nuns and priests brainwashed me using that kind of expresions since I was a little kid.
Don't you heathens understand that you have to believe in a righteously vengeful bearded sky father to be ethical? It doesn't matter which one. It could be Santa Claus. The point is that if no one is keeping track of who is naughty and nice, there's no reason to be nice, right?
No, not all irreverent foreigners in Beijing are bad guys, only the ones here on WLIBJ. I have a notion to wash my keyboard sometimes. Regardless, it’s gladdening to most that I've become passive amongst the presence of semi-autocratic webbies. I chose to skip the assimilation and keep it 100. For those who don't know it means, call it realism because it worthy of that alone.
It doesn't take ethics or contacts to know an asshole when you see one so what’s the problem? Is it the ass or the hole that provides hints of its shitty existence?