the schools want and prefer white teachers.dont get us wrong,we are not racist but its just the schools needs we are after here.
Pandering to the unrealistic expectations of racist parents is somewhat racist itself. That said, I've taken jobs like this before. But if I'm gonna sell my soul, I'll at least get a fair price.
And this ain't.
Hahahahaha ... help here!
Can anyone from America confirm what pretty Harmonious wrote: "In America people prefer white people as well, but there are laws to give black people a better chance, as you are saying the rules of market, then there is no chance for any black people to get any job" ...
I thought this was going to be a joke when I opened the thread.
Anyway, it's just an opportunity for our friends from the poorer areas of Russia to make more than they would back home. Ability speak or teach English is fortunately never a requirement of these jobs.
DD, in the U.S. we have "affirmative action" as an effort to combat the [perceived] continuing effects of institutionalized racism and sexism. Just like in China minorities can get extra points on their 高考, "affirmative action" helps black and native American (including all forms of Hispanic) students, gifting them an advantage over other ethnic groups. Government contracts and certain jobs will also hire women and certain minorities over better-qualified candidates.
The concept is that some places in Texas are so racist that blacks will not ever be hired into a position where they could lessen the discrimination, so quotas are created to force the action.
Well that's what happen when education become a private service, a business...Customers choose the teachers, customers give exams to teachers etc...
That's school is offering a service that customers are demanding...
Now maybe a "Native" speaker will be welcome in front of "any white english teacher" ;)
Whatever, i has been the only black in ma class and i has been the no 1 student in that class.
I will never give a job to any of the 350,000 Chinese in South Africa.
Sorry to nitpick, but the way almost all state affirmative action policies are written up, there are no quotas and minority candidates only receive preferential status if they're equally or nearly as qualified as the straight white dude. The only case of a quota system that I can think of off the top of my head is University of Michigan's law school, and a court ordered them to change the policy.
There are quotas Dando. I've tried to coordinate some business with the US, and I recall something like 30% of our work would need to be done by minority owned businesses. Almost all law schools give a 10% score boost to URM's, which is the difference between a top 10 school and a top 50 school.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go revise my Ann-Arbour application so they know I'm actually native American.
hey guys,we all know chinese are racist but lot of them are not.how many foreigners in china can say they havent slept with a chinese girl?the problem is the parents have been led to believe or just have come to the conclusion that only white skinned folks are good enough to teach their kids and as we all know,education is a moving business in china so the parents dictates to the school who inturn screens for exactly what the parents need or the parents withdraw their kids and take them to another school and that is bad for business.i dont get angry when i hear such things any more.i just shake my head and pity chinese cos they are so far backwards.the jobs in the tread is real if anyone wants it.
It's ten times worse in Thailand. A blonde haired, blue eyed Russian high school dropout with minimal command of the English language has a better shot at getting an English teaching job here than a Phillipino who is fluent (OK...no such thing exists...but hyopthetically) and has a Masters in Education.
Donn Abel, Is your racist response to racism going to improve things?
i just remember when we were back on the campus, many students got up at very early in the morning to listen to VOA or BBC outside, and i was one of them.striving to speak the language with an american accent of british accent is considered to be the goal for spoken english, and it helps ur score if u attend english contest or as an english major student,i mean it's the standard,which is the standard from the education system.and since every student is studying english cause it's thought to be very important language day by day ,if it's important,it's the standard,chinese parents definitely want their kids speak or master perfect english, then the school need hire teachers who speak perfect english, where they are from they are america or uk,and they are white so the the parents, the shcools, the students all came to a conclusion:white ppl can teach english!
however,the truth is that you walk on the street in NY or london, you see different faces, but they are all speaking standard english cause they are born that way.it's annoying that it's getting very slow for us to realize it in china,but there is a deep theory rooted in ppl's mind,so don't get frustrated or furious about chinese ppl foreign friends, ppl will realize that eventurally, and as we said above,it's probably same in other countries too.
ah lovely harmonious meimei :)
it's right, world is getting smaller,ppl will understand it gradually,we will all understand each other more.that's a good sign,i'm happy for thattttttttt
die seuntjie is 'n hond
good question Godfather.the school i teach in doesnt mind my skin color and are more interested in what their kids are learning also the kids love me cos am very friendly and play with them.i put up this ad cos my boss asked for my help in finding teachers for some of his friends schools but told me they are closed minded when it comes to color of the skin.
Donn, I understand the frustration, but you have to get above it. I get pissed enough when people try to hire me for being white. I have some idea how I'd feel if I couldn't get a job in some field I was qualified in because of race.
It's funny though, I've mentioned this before, but these racist employers are most reacist against themselves. I've got a Nigerian friend who has fairly bad English, and he's teaching in Shanghai. There are definitely Chinese people with better English than him who would be willing to take the 100 CNY/hour, but he got the job because he's black. The white teachers he knows are paid more though... Should he be mad or glad?
its kind of sad cos chinese people were taught and are still teaching their kids to see color instead of people.i wonder when and if this will ever end.
Tina ... you were talking about listening to radio, right? Then, would it surprise you if the voice you were listening to, might belong to a non-white person?
Steve Mensah ... such superficial thing has been like this for more than decades, perhaps even centuries, in China, or among Chinese (Hong Kong was used to be like that) ... and if I may borrow your word, "sadly", it will still go on for many more ...
Companies might set their own quotas; universities and public institutions cannot. The government can't require any organization to select a minimun number of minority applicants if there are plenty of qualified crackers available. Some companies don't understand how to implement AA programs. That's their problem. Not my place to justify their actions. I'm just an unambitious commie.
And University of Michigan's system is fucked on all fronts--being from the mostly uninhabited upper penninsula of Michigan is worth as much as being a minority. I doubt those rednecks could afford to go to UofM, unless they're natives and get free tuition. Like they need it, with all the money the local tribes pull in from the casinos.
I don't think it's a perfect policy, but it's too necessary in the US education system. Until school funding is derived from somewhere other than local property taxes, anyway.
That said, I've had quite a few shitty ESL jobs that were offered to me just because I've got blonde hair and blue eyes. I don't sell out for cheap, though. Least of all because those sorts of schools are the kind that'll be asking me a bunch of stupid favors like posing for promotional photos or teaching demo classes. Fuck. Life's hard for a language pimp.
Die mense praat kak yo.Ek dink hy is rassisties.
@RUSOKE, Ek weet nie
ami,u r still here,do u even need sleep @_@
12?hm...is it 9pm then?my maths is bad
Ami, we're 16 hours behind Beijing these days... 15 hours in the summer. East coast is 13/12 hours.
color does matter but nobody wants to admit it. they are all too worried about upsetting someone else.
lets get it straight now. for any type of language position in China.
A white person will do better.
I didn't make that rule. it just works that way.
yea i know, phucked up
@ Mike , why not prove your nonsensical argument? I have wonderful relationships with honest, honorable, and logical Chinese people. Success is key to those in reference so what about you?
sure, i know many people who couldn't get a fair shake because of 'skin color'
ask my brother and sisters. theyll tell ya all about it.
Well, we are all brothers and sisters regaurdless of color. What race are you talking about Mike?
well lets see my bro from nigeria cannot get a decent job in beijing.
my filipino buddy has the same issue
my boss is a sister from new york and was passed up many times on promotions but... according to the eyes in the english business. white seems to be the only thing they prefer.
dont ask me why. i just work there.
Well, at least you seem to be diverse yet your views of America can produce a significant contradiction that conflicts with our friends goals and agendas. All I'm saying is take some time to think about your remarks about our country because it remains to decided via a case by case basis most of the time especially when it comes to prosperity. I hope the brother from Niger,Filipino brother, and the NY sister get the financial opportunity that they deserve.... and even my pessimistic brother Mike.