Discussion » Nonsense » pretty fucked up

  • Jeff Dahmer
    Jeff Dahmer wrote:
    <p>The man who ran over Yue Yue was giving a 3.5 year sentence.</p> <p>wo cao</p>
  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    How long should this man have got for this accident? He turned himself in by the way.

    Come on...the shocking thing about this case was not that a little girl got run over, tragic as that was - it was the fact that NO ONE HELPED HER. I think the passers by that saw her and didn't aid her should each be given a year at least.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    punishing people for not providing aid

    Sounds like COMMUNISM.

    You have not fulfilled your Lei Feng Quota, comrade! Prepare your counterrevolutionary anus for re-education through labor.

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    punishing people for not providing aid to a dying infant in an emergency situation which does not put said people at any significant risk

    is not communism, it is merely a tiny part of a potentially larger general social policy which incorporates both meritocratic and socialist philosophy.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    punishing people for not providing aid

    Sounds like COMMUNISM

    nuh uh it's pronounced communitarianism

    Problem?

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    nuh uh it's pronounced communitarianism

    More like communitalism.

    The problem is that you are bolstering a popular false dichotomy (though probably just as you have been unwittingly trained to do) with the left / right paradigm.

    Communists believe this! Liberals believe that! Capitalists believe this! Republicans believe that! Democrats believe this! Anarchists believe that!

    All (insert arbitrary inaccurate political denomination) are (insert arbitrary claim)!

    Of course, all these claims are nothing more than nonsense, but people often believe them :(

    This is something which is truly hindering the development of civilization and mankind...our amoral overlords would have it no other way. You are a failed humanist if anything Dando, well done, pat self on back.

  • 随便叫兽
  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    @Bateman, plz.

    This thread is now about the middlingly radical political philosophy that Born Again post-whateverist @^ is having difficulty spelling.

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    What if I'm not sure whether the infant is dying?

    You have to make that call. This one is lying in the street with no one attending, motionless and bleeding.

    If there's an infant walking around with only a couple bruises, am I obligated to do something to avoid going to prison?

    Ask yourself, is it an emergency situation? Is the infant in immediate mortal danger? Sounds like they are not if the infant is walking around with just a few bruises.

    What about non-visible internal injuries in regular people walking around at all hours? Do I need to carry my CT Scan machine with me everywhere?

    Ask yourself, is it an emergency situation? You are only responsible for those in mortal danger, in the immediate vicinity, when aiding them would pose no significant risk to yourself. E.g. You are not obliged or expected to dive in front of a speeding lorry to push an infant out of the way. Why? Because this would pose significant risk to yourself.

    Also, if I don't give money to a starving homeless guy and he subsequently starves to death 2 seconds later, what kind of sentence should that be?

    No one ever said you had to give money to anyone.

    Anyway communitalism is my own word, gnome (like 'irrelavent' lol). Im not constrained by traditional language and if others in history are free to invent words to describe concepts, so am I.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    That's nice. Anything is possible with civil imagineering.

    But it still sounds like COMMUNISM. Two superfluous syllables do not a clever neologism make.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    And that is why Spain is DEMIURGE TIER, where folks made anarcho-syndicalism actually fucking work until the fascists and commies fucked it all up.

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    You can keep parroting "it sounds like communism" as many times as you like. It wont change the fact that what it is is NOT communism, even if it "sounds like" it to you. I suppose gray to you "sounds like" black (or white?).

    The disheartening thing about people like you Dando is, in fact, you almost certainly have a good understanding of the concepts described, but your intention is to purposefully misguide others into thinking that they represent something other than what they actually do. While this may be standard political trick, it is at heart a very evil and manipulative MO.

    Your purpose is to lessen the potential impact of my superior philosophy on your way of life, the widescale adoption of which would reduce your power over individuals in the set. If this was a serious debate, I would say that it is people like you keep the world in turmoil, little bits at a time.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    Communiwhateverism sounds like communism.

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    your intention is to purposefully misguide others into thinking that they represent something other than what they actually do.

    Sounds like false consciousness.

    Can you articulate this ORIGINAL POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY DO NOT STEAL in any way other than relative to what you think my political philosophy might be?

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    So, I take it you admit fail + defeat here?

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    I admit that you've come a long way from Thatcher's snatch.

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  • Alex ^∞
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    Well, that went better than expected

  • Alex ^∞
    Alex ^∞ wrote:

    A mod was present.

  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:

    I'm as communitarianist as the next guy, and think we all should try harder to be good Samaritans. But I can only imagine that legislating so that one must go to a persons aid in an emergency creates a bit of an ethical and enforcement nightmare.

    It would very much depend on the amount of care stipulated by the law itself. People are often too scared to act in a given situation for a variety of reasons. It would seem harsh to put people in prison because of this. However if the duty of care was just, say, to call the police it would seem reasonable.

    For a law like this you are going to have to spend a lot of time trying to establishing to what extent the perpetrator realised there was danger, and then establish the reasons why he did or did not act.

    I guess if all these things could be established, there might be a case for such a law. But I think it puts society on very dangerous ground.

    Would be interesting to see how these laws play out in Spain or where ever they have them.

    I'm probably overlooking some key tenet of philosophical ethics, but guess I'm more of a carrot than a stick man really...

  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:

    Yeah, had a little look into it. It's pretty rare, but according to that great bastard of knowledge, Wikipedia, they do have laws to this effect in Serbia, Brazil, Germany, Quebec and a handful of American states, among others. In the main I think they require you to just make an emergency call...

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