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  • Micky
    Micky wrote:
    <p><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">I bumped into this questions and I feel we should discuss it here. Is America still the land of golden opportunity or a nation to envy?&nbsp; Has the U.S. lost its credibility as a world leader and how do Chinese now view America?&nbsp; Why do so many Chinese want to move there while more and more Americans are moving out to live abroad?</span></p>
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    ...

    Hahahahaha ... a local girl (a top manager in Chinese bank) told me before that she wants to get a masseur license or certificate, and then migrate to Australia to make a few hundred a week ... but she does not have a justifiable reason ...

    ... so my guess is "yes" ...

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    If you have money, practising the usury in crisis time still can make you more richer. So, yeah!!! still the land of golden opportunity. A good place to built a fortune, buying cheap, for example the houses that banks have taken from the people that can not pay their credits.......

    or if you come from a poor country, work as wage slave in USA, can be very niubi.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    "Hell, we abandoned manufacturing decades ago. Ask the resident Rust Belt crew here about it,"

    Ask politely. Preferably with booze.

    ...

    You know what? America never had any credibility as a world leader.

    Americans didn't save Europe from the Nazis; they simply retarded the development of socialism. Domestically, they have elevated their backwards political economy of crony capitalism and corrupt patron-client relationships (euphemistically referred to as "lobbying") to a sort of state religion. To question the fairness of the system is treasonous.

    They don't lack technology; American universities and research institutions are still some of the best in the world. America lacks a will to implement technology that isn't profitable. A high speed railway connecting the east and west coasts didn't sit well with the automotive industry half a century ago. Too fucking late now. Amtrak is a fucking joke.

    Y'know what America has? The best military in the world. Current military ventures in nation-building are turning out to be failures because American soldiers are not fucking police. They're not suited for maintaining peace. Really they're not suited for much of anything other than being the goodwill ambassadors of FUCK YEAH.

    The real strength of the US military lies in logistics. In WWII, they could have built a railroad from Normandy to Berlin, but they didn't have to because the commies did all the heavy lifting for them. Americans are good at getting "lesser peoples" to do the hard work for them. Now? They can put an aircraft carrier anywhere in the world. War isn't won by numbers, training, or ideals. War is the ultimate expression of rapacious capitalism, and it's won by economics and control of resources.

    Hey, now that their credit rating has been downgraded, y'know what's still a safe bet? US Treasury bonds. Fucking suckers. I hope the Federal Reserve decides to use seigniorage to eliminate our debt by instructing the Treasury to mint a 5 trillion dollar coin. Fuck it. I'm in student loan debt up to my eyeballs. Not like I've got anything saved anyway.

    tl;dr

    Fuck America. But fuck everyone else even harder for following along. Fucking lemmings.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    In 2012, I'm writing "Zombie FDR" on my absentee ballot.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    "CUT TAXES NOT DEFENSE"

    Oh the sweet irony 

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    That's not irony. The American war machine is greased by the fat of unbaptized minority babies.

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Is the US still a land of golden opportunity? No, not any longer. It takes miracle for the US to get back from where it used to be.

    The US might be paying the price of the attrociies it have created around the world? Not sure. But when we look at the past, the US have organized terrorism which we are decrying today. When the US did it, it was democracy, and when the Muslim do it, it's evil. Too much money burning it bullet and artilleries__Creating war in different place to show off it hegemony. I hope common US citizen don't wake up as our English fellows to loot the small group of rich.

    High Priest

  • Virgil W
    Virgil W wrote:

    When was the last time that we bombed the road to Yintai center? Oh, OK . Well ,maybe next time....You'll make sense.

    America is just like any other country of course. Some days we like it spicy...paid for it! Some days we try new things...aids for it. Some day we wore a ring...laid for it. Still, now-a-days things hang, made for it... Oh , you expected me to say that I'm rich Bitc#?

    Even the recent news cannot create truth. No one may kill a village by poisoning an individual. That way only individuals will die or else fail. Times have strengthened China gracefully yet without a need for pace, just as the willow.

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    @Coco, thanks for this info. But I think the unemployment rate needs reajustment, not 10%

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    。。。

    Hahahaha ... is the like of Paris Hilton included in the 10%?

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    @Captain America aka Scott...let's hope that your next global overlord shares some of the same values you seem to enjoy (freedom of speech and religion, primarily), that America has been attempting to hegemonistically spread across the globe.

    This is bullshit that American governement have been trying to make narrow minded US citizen like you believe that the US have been the artisan of these slogan values (Human Right, Democrcy). If you dig deep , you will notice that the US try to talk about other countries not respecting human right and democratic values while US citizen aren't enjoying them in their own soil.

    How would you prove to me and the rest of the wlib members that human right and democracy do exist in the US? Don't be easily duped mate!

    Often time I repeat, the US instead, have been a super terrorist country, the US has spent much of the money which could improve the well fare of its citizen to train terrorist (like Kamikaze ) in some countries and creating  futil wars. This same tactic Alqaida is using today has been applied by the US since 60s if not mistaken if you want more proof by me, I'm ready to offer you more details with facts. It's shame that now common citizen are suffering due to a small group of individuals(Mostly Republicans) who wanted to hijack the world.

    High Priest

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    >The US trains Japanese fighter pilots to fly jets into conventional military targets
    >mfw

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

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    (continued) ... great movie that one ...

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    I'm a former anti-war protester. While the American political system is far from perfect, I've taken advantage of American civil liberties to demonstrate in public and say many things that would get me arrested in other countries.

    The sad thing is that we're only able to enjoy such freedoms because our political stability is purchased at the expense of peace and stability in the third world.

  • Virgil W
    Virgil W wrote:

    @ Dando Z...What do you mean, "you people?"

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    @Captain America @Dando @Scott....just for curiosity, Have you been living in Europe??

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    @Adolfo, Nyahahaha, no. When you hear me talking about European civil liberties, I'm probably talking to freedumb loving Americans.

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    I asked you guys, because I always wonder how the people from USA look us. After the II WW the most of the european constitutions were redacted following the spirit of the U.S constitution... I have always believed that except for the big cars style, the American Football, the guns, and the stinky monarchies and universal health care (Socialized medicine?!?! XD) that we have here.... not big differences in the way of life and liberties.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    America is kickass because they take everything good from the rest of the world and call it American. The rest of the world is fucked up because they take America's lame ideas and repackage them as someshit with cuntever characteristics.

    I'm from ARPANET the Internet. I'm here to help.

  • 随便叫兽
  • Mengmeng
    Mengmeng wrote:

    I have a question about a "great book program" or something like that in American university, it was said to include science, literature, arts etc. How does it work in these schools, do students benefit from that program?

    My grandpa fancies America, he is 95 yso; My grandpa's brother is a communist, he died. I tend to support anarchism, it turns out I am a weirdo:-D.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    inb4 起飞牧师 complains about how we're persecuting him.

    pic related: it's how freedom of speech works

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    。。。

    Hahahahaha ... Dando ... I dont think he gets it ...

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    Maybe she means liberal arts colleges?

  • Mengmeng
    Mengmeng wrote:

    I don't know either. I just heard it from a radio program, that man graduated from ** university (I forgot): he had studied basically all the disciplines, and the program encourages students to do creative work on these courses rather than knowing simply facts and professional jargons. He said it was very difficult and there were only a few students attending. I am really interested in it and thinking if there is any golden part of America, it should be this program, it cultivates soul rather than products working tools and I won't regret to swim across Pacific Ocean for it.

    BTW,酒囊神父would be a far cooler name than 起飞牧师。

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    After the second world war, NATO was created, and after that, the US and its European allies created a secret army called "Stay Behind". The US went far even to convince neutral countries such as Swiss and Austria to host this secret army. This secret army had one of the objectives to create terrorist acts to countries that don't have ties with the US and those leaning to the Soviet Union.

    We can find Licio Gelli leading this secret army branch (P2) in Italy__

    Terrorist acts:On the beer party in 26 Sept1980 around 22:10 a 21 young man did the Kamikaze, he was a drummer in one band, he killed 11 people with him. Founding shows that this young boy was linked to the secret army (Stay Behind). There was a guy who was found with weapon that were supplied to the member around Germany died in mysterious way as he wanted to tell the truth about this secret army. Till today victim families are still requesting to know the truth..

    In Belgium, in 1982, a group of secret army shot and killed people in the hypermarket Delhaize in  Charlerois city , the suspect were protected by  a police chief who tried not to let the investigation done properly.

    Ever since, America has never been a democratic country as what is being publicized, if it were a democratic country, there should be at a socialist or communist party as it is in France or other countries in Europ. Commis are regarded as evil people in the US.

    The US organized another terrorist act with its secret army, in August 2 1980, at the Central railway in Bologna, 80 people were killed and over 200 were injured, top leaders who were linked to secret army didn't let any chance of doing a proper investigation till today.

    Can anyone tell me which country the US has brought joy and happiness to its people? We can't mention more than 600,000 who have perished in Irak in the name of bringing freedom to the world, we won't mention innocent people who are being killed in Lybian in the name of bringing in freedom,

    Here is a video of something the US and its allies are doing in Africa>>>www.congojustice.org it's more than the holocaust, yet, because they know they are the one going in there to steal minerals, they have tried to be more silent while each day ,48 women are being raped each minutes just because of America.

    We saw the common American demonstrating against sending troops to Irak, did their leader hear their voices? 

    In brief, the US is a bad example to democracy, they've got no lesson to teach rest of the world.

    So, with the few small terrorist acts, some similar to Kamikaze well organized by the US...only those with brain full of smoke will think Nippon are who manufactured Kamikaze.

    @Captain America, Hmm, Pablo Escobar is my ancestor. Since u like doping, I'm gonna show u whom to contact. 

    High Priest

     

     

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

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    Hahahahaha ... Latin? Taking over US? heehee ... this is so so way off topic ...

    I think ... at the end, it is how "you" make of it ...

    I have seen far too many people migrated from HK and mainland to Oz, but regreted it ... and then there is a bunch of "happy go lucky" like myself, or many who had worked hard and made a mark in Australia ...

    So, as long as "you" know why you want to go to US, not just because other people says so, know what you might need (English, money, job skill, money, good look and charm, money, etc etc, money) ... and get these ready, then, I am sure "you" will have your own "big success" and be happy :)

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    @Mengmeng, Ideally that's what all liberal arts programs are supposed to be. Maybe you'd enjoy studying at a place like Evergreen State College (Google it; I don't have time for a hyperlink). That model of education is on its way out, though. Employers prefer narrowly focused drones.

    酒囊神父? I like that. That's awfully prescient, as the rant that follows it would have to be his least coherent yet.

    ...

    Would someone please translate highspeak into English? I'm afraid I'm a little off this morning. I tried reading it before and after the customary wake'n'bake, and it's total nonsense either way.

    ...

    @Elliott, "Yes, the Latin American Male ( mix of Native American and Spanish)  will soon take over since the White ( British and Irish has been emasculated by their wives and take power."

    I liked your beanerphobia more when the jazz musicians were going to seduce our White Wimminz with their dastardly devil drug, the dangerous "Marihuana".

    Everyone extend a warm welcome to the butthurt white guy, who just arrived in China fresh from a midlife crisis. Or bitter divorce. Or just plain getting shitcanned for having an epic beard.

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Would someone tell the High Priest, why such terrorist (KKK) organization are allowed to operate, but not a communist or socialist party? It's a land oa freedom isn't it?

    @ those with brain fucked up with hash and excrement, it's can be a little hard to read and find the coherence in what HP wrote. Why even bother?

    High Priest

     

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    Am I the only drug-addled shit-fer-brains who would like clarification of High Priest's paranoid conspiracy theories? Or am I the only person bothering to read this nonsense?

    (Got a pal in the States who is a card-carrying Communist, too.)

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Ha ha, who am I talking to here? For sure this topic is beyond ur petty knowledge as u  can't give an answer to prove that my questions are irrelevant. This makes u a weak as you result to insult and all of that, this is what I call, intolerance which u could demonstrate as u claim from a country where these values are fabricated no!  ha ha ha

    I feel sorry that you've apparently lived in oppressive countries your whole life and have no idea what freedom feels like.

    I'm asking you a small question: CA aka Scott, You coming from a country were there is no oppression and a country of freedom, what r u doing here in China country labelled oppresive and without freedom? 

    You  see how wild u went when am talking about communist party in the US? What's wrong with that? Would u tell about the persecution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? This is freedom communist have had in the US?

    Which organization between the Ku Klux Klain and a Socialist Party should be allowed? KKK are there killing and traumazing the black, yes, because te US is a land of freedom. When it comes to have a socialist party no, socialism is evil. Is this action democrat or democrap?

    I've shown in a synchonical way above, the US have done the same tactics Alqaida terrorists are doing today. Democracy__De la poudre aux yeux!

    I'd ask again, Which country the US have brought freedom and happiness into? Lybia? Irak? Aghanistan? 

    You are really not level-headed, I guess u are a wast of time though.

    High Priest

     

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Oh God, you're really going to blame USA for Libya. We should have just stood by while Gaddhafi murdered all of his people. I suppose we infected Syria too. Blah blah blah blah blah, talking out of your ass still.

     This boy needs a life, what have the US left in Lybia? R u such a bastard that u can't understand that invading a sovereign country, killing cvilian in the name of bringing salvation is breaking the law? These practices are to be condemned and these actions lead people around the world to have hatred to innocent US citizen! Thank God spending much money into distabilizing countries over the world has brought this imperialist country to the brink of collaps.

    U r just one of those morron who condone invading other countries. U need a life.

    lord, I've got that moral obligation to sermon this arrongant imperialist

    High Priest

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    You should've quit while you were ahead, Cap'n. You had pretty much nailed him on the political party issue. But now we've got to listen to this pro-Gaddaffi pygmy rant about Libya again. Lame.

    Oh well. There's an abridged book in front of me about Chinese UN peacekeepers. It's utterly fascinating in comparison.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    He's a heroin addict, too. True fact.

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    。。。

    Hahahahaha ... and the doctor asked me to go back for another examination on Friday ...

    Scott ... I am afraid the secret identity of the Mini guy has already been taken ... "Yes Sir" once accused me for being "Mini" ...

    Captain... no need to print it in bold, we know :)

    ... and the moron cannot even spell "moron" correctly ...

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    HP is not a pro Kadhaffi.Even if he is a dictator, we still have more dictators than him. What Bush did can't even be compared to what Kadhafi has done. I'm still waiting when Syria will be also liberated...

    Captain, u r one of those naives fellas who trust the bullshit u r coping and pasting. Who told u that all those informations are right?

    Let me ask a question as you are talking about that so called International court. What makes it international? Would u tell me since its foundation, who is a  non African who have been judged there, or who is an American who have been sent there? That's an African Court, that's FYI, there have been three international courts created in the world. International court of Arusha, Internation Criminal tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, and the ICC which u mentioned.

    America which have more and worse criminals like Bush in the world, and those bunches of rich  bankers who have provoked Financial Tsunami in the world__ Why can't they be sent there? The US say it can't send its Citizen to be judged in foreign soil  especially by this fucking international Court. Wtf is that to call it international Court? From my research, unless u prove me wrong, that court is made for Africans. Tell me one no African who is there. And it's just another way to control these weakened African countries.

    Capitain A aka Scott, you are just out of touch with the people who are being killed around the world by your leaders. And u are a shame at your age, as a young man, supporting this bullshit. I encourage u to read more and know more about world politics. Travel more.

    Well, I'm enjoying Malasia and the food so much, let me go and order  some Nasigoreng, yummy.

    High Priest

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Ha ha, u are a dupe naive boy, trust that nymphomaniac of urs. Nway, u r giving her a great hardcore job.

    That's Y I told u that u lied about ur criminology major, 0/10. But thanks for sending an emmisary of darkness.

    High Priest

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Nah, why to be jealous about? Is there any judgement even there, it's just a fact.

    If u are new or anonymous, this is how things work here whenever HP has to say something, instead of criticizing his opionion, a bunch of morons (DD is the spelling correct now?Thanks for correcting moron HP) 

    By that's the way it works here.

    HP

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    。。。

    Hahahahaha ... Scott ... dont think you Chinese is that good, and if I am going to be any "bird", I would have gone for "emu", "dudu" is small...

    ... and the moron did not really finish his sentence ...

  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    Captain America was vindicated during the Marvel Civil War when he opposed the Superhero Registration Act and went rogue.

    The designation of most worthless superhero belongs to Aquaman.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    @This Guy, I think that was me he was talking about. Nah, it's not personal. High Priest is just off his meds today.

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    Dando, I like Chinese Medicine, but just the dissenteria is the one killing HP

  • Even Nygård
    Even Nygård wrote:

    The US is a great place to live if you're rich: it's a terrible place to live if you're working class or poor.

    It's a stupid idea to give up your entire social and familial support network to gamble in a game where the odds are stacked against you. The US is full of well-educated people with all sorts of college degrees who can't land a better job than McDonald's or Petsmart.

    Not even full time mind you, I know someone with as degree in nursing (the most in-demand field) who can only get part-time at a hospital, so he has to wait tables at two restaurants to make ends meet. If you are willing to work that crazily hard, you're probably just as likely to succeed here in China.

    This of course is assuming that your job in China is better than mining coal with your teeth. If you are mining coal with your teeth, then by all means, get your ass to the US. At least there you can be promoted to picking fruit.

  • Even Nygård
    Even Nygård wrote:

    Poor John Lennon. Paying a tax rate of 95 percent must have been absolutely crippling given his meager take-home.

    My blood boils at the thought of being reduced to the living standards of the top 2 percent of the population instead of the top 0.009 percent.

  • Saint - Spartacus

    opportunity = yes , golden ?  i prefer china , except i do drug traffic in us

  • High Priest
    High Priest wrote:

    @Saintro, doing drug in US is much more better than doing it in China?:)

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