Discussion » Health & Fitness » The Meaning of Freedom

  • Liz
    Liz wrote:
    <p>A person is rare and extraordinary if they know no limitations, for there is no human in history who can explain, for lack of understanding, what freedom truly is. They, and everyone else, have lived under a code of dictatorship, law, boundaries, ruler over subordinates, and all things that bind one against their will to be free. This one cannot recall in history, save for a select, rare few, perhaps, a group or society that existed in a way that allowed for no restrictions. A single person may find the power, when avoiding all others, to obtain freedom. In this way, they allow no one to steer them, or divert their course - they are not bound or chained by moral responsibility to abandon their course and commandeer another's, their hearts are not burdened by the woes of the enslaved - what one must do to gain acceptance, what one must do to please their superiors, what one must do to survive in a world where people are alive, but not living.</p> <p>While, they live - they laugh, they love, they find pleasure in the world, certainly - under rocks and in tunnels buried deep beneath blackened soil! They must dig, aye, through war and disease and death and sorrow, before they find that pleasure, that faint happiness that only shines bright because their eyes have become accustomed to darkness. "When he approaches the light his eyes will be dazzled, and he will not be able to see anything at all of what are now called realities" (Plato)</p>
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    。。。

    Hahahahaha ... nice :) ... should blog it ...

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    Here my paranoid :D

    With the thought, nobody can prove the freedom. Whereas the pattern cause-effect rules our thought, all the arguments lead us to determinism. when we reflect about our actions, always we can find a reason or a cause behind them. Freedom in the sense of a capacity of act without reasons or causes, is unthinkable. 

    Determinists always write nice sentences:

    -ducunt fata volentum, nolentum trahunt-
    "The fates guide those who go willingly; those who do not, they drag."

    —Seneca

    -Therefore with the same neccesity with which the stone falls to earth, the hungry wolf buries its fangs in the flesh of its prey without the possibility of the knowledge that it itself is the destroyed as well as the destroyer [...]

    -Schopenhauer

    .......

     

    Fortunately, some things can not be put into abstract concepts, but can be felt. The rigidity and sharp delineation of the concepts, can not reach the finer modifications of the perceptible. Behold the world through concepts, is behold the world like a mosaic, instead the whole picture..... bla bla bla......  Freedom can be felt, but can not be thought. +'say-show' distinction = A true art work shows the human freedom  O_o


  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)

    ...

    Hahahahaha ... Lizzie complained over last night's dinner that I never said anything in her thread, since I had just made fun of someone, I am in a very gay mood, so here I am to humiliate myself ... ...

    "Freedom" ... it's about doing whatever, whenever, wherever, with (or without) whoever we wish ... but, even if we take out moral and society boundaries for a moment, we are limited by many physical ones ...

    For example, and being a little bit more well versed in pornography than many people, there are some guys and gals out there who had expressed in writings, their desires to live the life of the other gender, but, this would never be a choice, hence, well, not free to do so ...

    And if that was not enough of self-humiliation ...

    I will extend beyond this to say that we are all, sadly, bounded by our "shells", whether it be physical, psychological, or even moral and society, and what we have left with, is our "freedom" ...

    So, "freedom" is about how big or how little we see ourselves, and how much we would like to do in the world ... if you dont want much, you have comparatively more "freedom" than others ...

    * end of self humiliation, now I will finish my coffee *

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    Are you talking about classical anarchy or modern teenage angst anarchy?

    The former is a viable political philosophy; the original Greek root means "against the rulers." Classical anarchists were very well-organized and developed their own anti-authoritarian codes of law. The latter is just fashionable nonsense; in common usage, it means "no rules lol".

  • Mengmeng
    Mengmeng wrote:

    Freedom is the mathematical limit

    Only can be counted approximatly

    while not a single thing can achieve it


    An eagle in the sky

    seemingly free as he

    driven by hunger does he fly


    Star twinkling shyly in the night

    Orderly orbit without running into other

    Is it purely just being polite


    So comes the meaning of freedom

    Respecting nature while satisfying desire

    Otherwise, it's merely unconditionally random

  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:

    @Salmon. 

    we have Aristotle talking about ethic in his books, with those rigidity and sharp defintions, with those syllogisms, and in other hand, 庄子 showing the ethic by means of stories, point out it instead talk about it. I don´t know if have sense in this way, books on ethic cause 知道, but stories about ethic cause 捂. 

    Also we have poesy and the arts in general, where the art objects always point out to other things diferent from themselves, the meaning of an art object lies beyond itself. Somethings are very difficult to talk about them, but easily to show them by means of others, point out them.... 

    Wanderer above the Sea of Fogwhen I see this painting, I know the meaning, where it points out, but when I try to put in words, in categorical sentences.... I can not do it, I always feel that I let something important outside....


  • Jenny&King
    Jenny&King wrote:

    Let it go.

  • Jenny&King
    Jenny&King wrote:

    Just a choise

  • Virgil W
    Virgil W wrote:

    Real freedom can only be defined by an individual and not collective exertions. In its true sense, freedom relies upon instinctive singularity. Needless examples cannot change the fact that some are "restricted" while others remain restricted.

  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:

    There are two kinds of freedom--'freedom to' and 'freedom from'. We're familiar enough with the former. We all yearn to say "Fuck you, I'll do what I want" such that it seems something like the categorical imperative of the ego.

    'Freedom from' is just as necessary. Well, actually, it's a cuntish circumlocution for necessity. But it's at least as important to have freedom from hunger, freedom from the cold, and freedom from violence.

    Pay your taxes.

  • Undermoonlight

    Freedom is a scam~The truth of the human world is that the biggest liar takes all, beacuse he invented something called freedom in which stupid people like you believe~

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