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  • A.w
    A.w wrote:
    <p><img src="http://www.ministryoftofu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/chinese-tones.jpg" alt="" width="440" height="330" /></p> <p>With a slight change of tone, &ldquo;Miss, how much is a BOWL of DUMPLINGS?&rdquo; becomes &ldquo;Miss, how much is a NIGHT of SLEEP (in the context, with you)?&rdquo;</p>
  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    哈哈!牛!

  • 王经纬
    王经纬 wrote:

    日完软  是正确的

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    “语文课上,女老师问:”软”的拼音怎么读?男生齐喊:日完-软”,老师说,男生部分发音不准.现在再让女生读一遍!女生齐读:”日完俺软” ”。。。

  • Undermoonlight

    I'd rather like to percieve language learning as a natural process~So my suggestion is that we don't need to memorize so many rules and norms~~Just try talking to people who speak the language you intend to learn...mostly, people learn a foreign language for communication, and grammar is not that important as many language teachers boast~~

  • Undermoonlight

    ~typical of the western metaphysical thinking, which seems reasonable and rational and yet, can be hardly achieved by human beings~~haha~well, "philosophically" sepaking, you are so damn right~~but again, please remind youself that you are just human. not mechanical~~~

  • Undermoonlight

    And the sad thing is that we Chinese, in pursuit of "metaphysics and sciences", which we were forced to do due to  the  invasion of the West, have already done away with the humane aspects of our traditional thinking, and even become more metaphysical and rigid than westerners nowadays~~

    Grammar is not universal, and it is just a metaphysical thing invented by westerners first in Latin~the original Chinese had had actually no grammar, not until we imitated the western language and "established" a grammatical system, which is inimical to the culture sustaining the chinese language~~ 

    Besides, I'm not saying grammar is not important, but not That Important~~

  • Minger
    Minger wrote:

    I don't get the 軟 joke.

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    语文课上,女老师问:”软”的拼音怎么读?男生齐喊:日(fuck)完(perfect tense)-软(soft)”,老师说,男生部分发音不准.现在再让女生读一遍!女生齐读:”日(fuck)完(perfect tense)俺(me)软(soft)”

  • 王经纬
    王经纬 wrote:

    汉语不是没语法,是语,她就有语法。只是以前的人没有那样讨论她而已!

  • Minger
    Minger wrote:

    Hmm, I assume 日完 meant the end of the day, after you've just had sex and are going to sleep. Why does 日 by itself mean fuck?

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    莫明,你这问题太专业了,我也不知道。有人说这是方言,有人说是因为“凹”和“凸”两个字合在一起看起来像“日”字,还有人说,古时候的“日”字是圆圈里面一个点,于是,这是象形字...

  • Minger
    Minger wrote:

    “凹”和“凸”合併了看起來像這個爛東西……

  • Nadia Scheie
    Nadia Scheie wrote:

    是啥?

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    @Moming, 这个...好吧...hahaha

    @Lee, according to Norm Chomsky's theory (you can challenge it of coz, but most linguistists tend to agree on it) tell us that people have inborn "grammar" system, and upon this system there are a bunch of "parameters". Different language has different set of parameters, then the frame of a certain language is there. (it has nothing to do with the phonetics still). And then, we have the upper level concept: "grammar" we are talking about, or a sense of "correct" or "incorrect" as you put it. The thing is, yeah, Chinese doesn't have a grammar, no Chinese kids learn Chinese grammar, and no Chinese know what Chinese grammar is, but they make their judgement by sense of correct or incorrect (of coz, you can say this is grammar indeed). Systematic Chinese Grammar is just for: 1) study and research; 2) teaching mandarin as a second language.

    As for the purpose 2, is grammar important in Chinese learning? yes, it's important for those quite basic rules, however, I believe you can imagine that, like any other language, you just cannot tell why this is right and that is wrong for most of times, eg. there isn't a near perfect grammar explaination on how to us "的" correctly. For the most part of the language, the thing you may wanna do is to mimic and practice. Unfortunately, this is the only way, not only for learning Chinese, but also for leaning any language in the world

    (what I said above is based on knowledge from a language acquisition linguistist and a researcher of Chinese learning as a second language)

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    操,日,上,干,搞,上床,开房,做爱,打炮儿...唉,太多了,你们自己研究吧。

    日!你们搞什么?!你知道我现在心情很干,这感觉真是操蛋~

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    嗯,最近正在学台语脏话,很有意思

  • Da Fan
    Da Fan wrote:

    不知道怎么打...

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