Discussion » Music » The Complete Hardcore Punk Zine '79-'83

  • A.w
    A.w wrote:

    Just got it!  It's COOL!

    576-page trade paperback book containing all 22 issues of the Touch and Go Punk Zine, a punk magazine that chronicled the early hardcore punk and post punk scenes.

  • 外交猫
    外交猫 wrote:

    CBGB closed a couple years ago, after all those years.  They couldn't pay the rent -- or they claimed they couldn't, depending on who you believe.  That whole part of the Bowery is gentrified now, it's not even scary at 3AM.  My dad used to roll in that scene.  Not my bag, though.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I used to have a copy of that collection... but I lost it :(

    Can we make this a hardcore thread? I need an excuse to quote Minor Threat lyrics

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I don't want to hear it
    All you do is talk about you
    I don't want to hear it
    'Cause I know that none of it's true
    I don't want to hear it
    Sick and tired of all your lies
    I don't want to hear it
    When are you gonna realize...

    THAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT
    KNOW YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT

    Shut your fucking mouth
    I don't care what you say
    You keep talking
    Talking everyday
    First you're telling stories
    Then you're telling lies
    When the fuck
    Are you gonna realize

    THAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT
    KNOW YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT

  • Simen Wangberg

    ?? Where/how did you get that book?? Amazon? Does someone here in Beijing actually sell it? DO WANT

  • Simen Wangberg

    Nevermind. I automatically assume that anyone/everyone that posts in this forum lives in Beijing (HAHA ITS THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE YOU IDIOTS) and apparently LZ lives in California. Someone should find a PDF of this. I guess that someone could be me.

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    Slayer? Blood Fire Death was a great album by Bathory :)

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I'd really love it if they published a big collected Heartattack book. That zine was incredible... untill the last issue where it was about owls and how domestic cats are evil or something. That was really weird. Still though: Ebullition made the best records and the best zine of the 90s.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Hey! I just found this!

    http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/archivespage.html

    Big online zine archive.

  • Simen Wangberg

    aaaaaand now I have reading material for the remaining duration of my contract. 多谢

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    What decent stuff that came out the past few years (like, past 2 or 3 years) have people been listening too? I've been really out of the loop lately but it seems there is still great stuff coming out. I've been really digging:

    Punch
    Nails
    Battle of Wolf 359
    Pissed Jeans

    but I'm hungering on some new stuff really bad.

  • Simen Wangberg

    I've been sort of out of the loop also, I don't hang out with any real hipsters here and I don't spend a lot of time finding new stuff on the Internets, even though it's so easy to do these days

    But

    There is a band called Blood Red Shoes that I'm sure you've heard of a million times since you're apparently from the UK and they are apeshit popular there I guess. They are awesome. Just straight-forward garage rock/punk jams basically.

    And there is a pretty great Shanghai band called X is Y that I've been listening to a lot lately, you can grab their LP for free here: http://www.mediafire.com/?7v6h0k34cj5qw3o They're sorta math rock-y but more melodic, like Shellac but not quite as abrasive.

    derpderp

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Blood Red Shoes kind of vanished already I think. NME hopped on them as a flavour of the month thing so all the DIY underground types stopped caring and the NME fan base cared for about a week. It was a shame. They were pretty decent. A bit above par live too.

    I'm going to give this X is Y stuff ago. Seeing as Shellac are amoungst my favourites... I'm always looking for more abrasive though!

  • Simen Wangberg

    Aww boo, that's too bad about them. I was wondering if they even ever made it to the States. NME has blown me for awhile now, but that's lame. It sounded like they were super popular in Europe for awhile.

    Yeah X is Y is more on the melodic side, like maybe closer to Chavez than to Shellac I guess. Abrasive...Dillinger Escape Plan? I dunno, I haven't kept up on anything apparently. I've been listening to new-old music that I didn't catch when it was first breaking. It's old music but it's new to me.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    This X is Y is really stellar. Reminds me of a lot of post-hardcore stuff.

    I think Dillenger Escape Plan have released 2 albums since I last listened to them. I think I was 14 when I saw them live. It was just before I got really, really into music.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    To be honest, I've never been that big a fan of metal. That's not to say there isn't some I enjoy but most of it just doesn't click for me. It's kind of annoying. I feel like I'm really missing out since so many people are such huge metal fans.

    There is some really metal influenced stuff I really love though, like Fall of Efrafa:

    Their three albums form this big trilogy thing. Their songs are really long too... AND HEAVIER THAN A BLACK HOLE

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:
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    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    p.s. you might really like some of the "post metal" stuff.

  • Simen Wangberg

    Oh shit. I thought that was gonna be the funny version (http://www.reoiv.com/images/random/flow_heavymetal.jpg), but this is actually useful. Actually this whole thread is chock-full of goodness.

    ARCHIVE THIS SHIT

    Oh you guys don't do that here huh.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Tragically, this is just WLIB... not WLIBchan

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    @Ami Li

    Thanks, i forgot that it's the cult extreme metal magazine back then.

    @Kieran

    dont think of metal music as metal when enjoying it, that way it's more fun. :)

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Nah, it's more fun when I think of it as metal and imagine myself in a leotard playing air guitar. There seems to be very sepicifc subgenres I like, but the majority of it just doesn't do it.

  • Simen Wangberg

    Oh word, that one over on Gulou...heard of it before and even walked past it a few times, but never checked it out. Will do

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    The owner is called Metal Fan! hehe

    Free Sound 福声 is also pretty cool, if you are looking for local music releases.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I went to 666 before, but I havn't heard of Free Sound before.

    Sugar Jar in 798 is closed now :( Really bummed about that. I bought a lot from there. He got forcibly evicted apparently.

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    sss

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    what the f u c k is going on with this website, i was trying to post a stupid answer for the 10th time and nothing works!!!!

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    HOORAY! UPDATES!

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    ok, again.

    @Ami Li

    it's not like that! we just share what we know and think that it also might be interesting to others right?

    btw: that Metal Fan is actually a long time friend of mine :)

    @Kieran

    http://wiki.rockinchina.com/w/Free_Sound_Records

    http://wiki.rockinchina.com/w/666_Rock_Shop

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Thanks a lot for that link! Freesound have tons of stuff I couldn't track down. Definitely need to go there when I get back. They seem to have all of the 2pi records stuff!

    I don't think I've been as excited to visit a record shop since I either went to Sugar Jar for the first time or I went to Bis Auf Messer in Berlin.

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    what are 2pi records? Free Sound actually offers a CD mailorder service via Taobao. I think they have the most complete catalogue of all chinese rock/indie/underground releases. I even bought a chn. vinyl album of an old rock band named The Compass some years ago when they had their booth on Midi Festival! The last time i wend there, i bought some chn. Jazz CDs.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    2pi is a record label. They put out lots of really crazy free improvisational noise stuff. The best known artist is probably Li Jianhong, who might not be everybodies thing but I have a lot of respect for him since he's incredibly creative.

    2pi's website seems to be down now though. Shame.

  • Webslave
    Webslave wrote:

    thanks Kieran, i found a douban link of Li Jianhong:

    http://site.douban.com/lijianhong/

    not really my cup of tea :p

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:
    Ami, these look cool! What are they like? Is there anywhere I can hear them?
  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Awww man! Nails and Bastard Noise are playing that festival! Nails released the best album of last year easily. I'm pretty sure I actually had a one person mosh pit in my room when I first listened to it:

    Shit. I'd really love to see them.

     

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Ha! I really like the idea of that site. Really cool.

    Now you said those CDs are experimental noise though, I want to hear them even more! T_T Any chance you could maybe put one on your computer then send it to me?

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Wow! I'm loving all of this!

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Esepcially Yan Jun

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Haha! I have a few of those! That Phobia one is really good.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Yeah, I think that's what my record collection is best for. Selling if I go broke... I have one 7" I paid £20 for. Luckily, it's one of my favourites otherwise £20 for 6 minutes of music would have been such a waste.

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I didn't realise it was alsp a book! The same guy (Steven Blush) made a film with Paul Rachman which is pretty good. You should check it out.



  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    :D :D :D :D

    I can never get over how good those guys are live. I've also got that exact same record! Mine is the orange one. Have you ever heard Ampere? If not I can send it to you via dropbox or something:

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    Nice! I missed Brutal Truth when they were here, kind of gutted.

    I like how we are the only people using this thread.

     

    p.s. Do you want me to send you Ampere? Or how about Orchid?

    I just like sharing the skramz love

  • Tenzenmen
    Tenzenmen wrote:

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    sorry for the ad.

    for the thread: fanzui xiangfa!

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    I was looking for this thread the other day! Needed the address of that music shop in Beijing. Really need to visit it after my first paycheque

  • Ejdnzlaj
    Ejdnzlaj wrote:

    So I went past the 666 metal shop yesterday and it was totally empty and a lot of stuff was on the street outside. Does anyone know what's going on?

  • Simen Wangberg

    Satan foreclosed on the property, they're relocating to the 8th circle of Hell.

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