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  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    For my sins am a bit of a polical junkie (I like politics and heroin) and I thought would start a thread on the UK General Election as the political campaign started today!

    Who's gonna win, what are the key issues, Gordon Brown- hot or not?

    For the record I'm a bit of lefty so will be supporting Labour despite their questionablte government over the past 13 years.

    I realize this posting is a bit parochial for the average Beijinger so will try weave in little vignettes about black men's cocks, why women orgasm and the merits of underage Asian wives to make the political stuff less boring....
  • Erik Røger
    Erik Røger wrote:
    when is the election?
  • Erik Røger
    Erik Røger wrote:
    Sorry for not knowing thort it would be quicker to ask here than google it myself!
  • Erik Røger
    Erik Røger wrote:
    that sucks i'll still be in China then so I cant vote
  • Ed Legend
    Ed Legend wrote:
    We do. Postal vote/proxy vote.
  • Erik Røger
    Erik Røger wrote:
    yeh already found it
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    Sheryl,

    Strange that they won’t let you vote when you have been in the country for so many years.

    I think never voting Labour due to a 1% increase (compared to the Tories 0.5%) on you National Insurance is a bit of a limiting way of looking at things. That money is to go on the NHS, schools, pensions, the deficit etc and will probably cost you about 150 quid a year, so I think you need to look at things a bit more holistically. I’m not saying they should put it up but flatly refusing to vote on the basis of a tax rise seems slightly daft to me.
    The government has been somewhat shambolic but in a sense all governments are, so you have to make an informed decision best you can.

    I agree all the parties have moved more to the centre over the last 20 years but I think some of the parties do have distinct polices (whether they see them through is another matter), Labour and the Lib Dems want PR (proportional representation) and an elected House of Lords whereas the Tories are dragging their feet on this. I for one think PR will have a massive effect on the political landscape.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    Sheryl,

    sorry you got turned down for something, don't let it make you bitter.

    Ideologically it sounds like you should vote Tory.
  • Joakim Berg Solum
    Don't you guys have like a king or queen that commands all of you guys? And princes and princesses too for that matter... BTW, female ejaculation, opinions?
  • TonyDice
    TonyDice wrote:
    does one need an opinion on female ejaculation other than say a) it certainly exits and b) surely it should be a top-ranking thread
  • 哎呀
    哎呀 wrote:
    Could British vote for a female leader? The UK was always stronger under the ruling of women.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    Not this time around Maria. I for one don't think Thatcher worked out too well....
  • 哎呀
    哎呀 wrote:
    Thorstan, could you have a bit of sense of humor? Why do you have to be so serious every time? :-)

    I'm kind of scared of you...
  • Daniel
    Daniel wrote:
    I'll probably set up a by-proxy vote with my parents.

    Quite excited about the prospect of a live debate though. Has the moderator been announced yet?

    Oh, and if all of the three major parties leave me cold, I'm voting Plaid Cymru.
  • Daniel
    Daniel wrote:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7559425/General-Election-2010-first-televised-debate-next-week.html

    Just checked it. Seems underwhelming.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    There will be 3 debates, moderated by Alastair Stewart, Adam Boulton and David Dimbleby. Apparently the candidates won't know the questions before hand.

    Oh and left-wingers last longer in bed...
  • TonyDice
    TonyDice wrote:
    Right-wingers are considerably more fun though, Carlos - left-wing sex I picture as a grim, muddy, righteous, slog with beards. You bet it's long.

    Right-wing sex involves whipped cream, the birch, a satsuma, Chelsea strip and lots of noise - I think there's photographic evidence of this with MPs scandals. Tories are always the one found auto-asphyxiating in women's stocking with an apple in their mouths.

    Labour sex scandal? Er, Fat Jacqui's husband blagging a porn film. Well, you would, wouldn't you?
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    Sheryl,

    I Think taking the super rich, actually has the potential to bring in quite a lot of money. Personally, it doesn't sit easily with me that people earn million while others live in penury. Realize there is a certain airy-fairyness to such comments but it is how I feel nevertheless. I have always believed in a redistributive tax system.

    One of the interesting thing about this campaign is the constant rolling coverage of the media analysing its own coverage, a type of meta-journalism if you like. Some of the commentators have absolutely nothing to say.... It has been taking to ridiculous levels by certain newspapers...

    You are right about left-wingers, my neighbours cannot sleep.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    A test to see which political party's policies you most agree with....

    It is a somewhat crude test but interesting nonetheless. Apparently Labour should be my third choice behind the Greens and Lib Dems

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7541285/How-should-I-vote-in-the-General-Election-2010.html
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    The concept of all power corrupting is interesting but only to a degree. However, the claim ‘every single politician is...’ strikes me as being a bit herd-mentality. Trotting out such populist aphorisms tends to smack of cliché and a failure of independent thought.

    Politics as a structure will inevitably be more nuanced than this type of knee-jerkism accounts for.

    You have politicians right through from Confucius, Gandhi and Kennedy to Obama, and Hu Jin Tao etc. Their motivations are invariably different.

    To paraphrase: “A politician is one who, out of madness or goodness, volunteers to take upon himself the woe of the people. There are few men so foolish, hence the erratic quality of leadership in the world.” A somewhat kindly summation, I feel.


  • Joakim Berg Solum
    That is a fucking beautiful quote Carlos.
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    John Updike, god bless him
  • TonyDice
    TonyDice wrote:
    We seem to have wandered off-topic. The subject is who's the best shagger, Tory or Labour? Or Lib Dem?
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    Hmm Sheryl,

    Yeah, you seem pretty harsh. I guess I'm with you on 1,3,7.

    Your political compass result seems strange, you seem more authoritarian than libertarian.

  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    The first ever live debates where yesterday and I was gutted to miss them. Yes, I'm that sad.

    It seems Clegg for the Lib Dems was the strong victor but I do wonder if these debates will have much impact on the way people vote.

    For the record Clegg has slept with way more women than the other two.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/apr/01/nickclegg.pressandpublishing
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    again I couldn't watch the debate but hear it was closer fought than the first.

    From the Telegraph:

    Gillian Reynolds, Telegraph radio critic

    The clunking fist of Gordon Brown swung against both David Cameron and Nick Clegg last night, and landed often.
    The serving Prime Minister had clearly trained harder than either challenger, learning from his mistakes last week, appearing to know more about their manifestos than they did about his, keeping his answers brief, grabbing every spare second of precious airtime to remind voters how much they had to thank him for.
    It was astonishing what Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg let him get away with. But who would have thought he would dare assimilate their best bits and pass them off as his own? Mr Clegg landed more serious punches than Mr Cameron, but the old bruiser outboxed both of them.
    My verdict: 1 Brown 2 Clegg 3 Cameron

    if I had to shag any of them it would be Clegg for sure (giving not receiving obviously).
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    My country has a Tory Prime Minister and I feel sick
  • Martin Reppe
    Martin Reppe wrote:
    guys i dont think that David Cameron is a good guy
  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:
    @Carlos, other reason more for not return home :P
  • Pavoir Sponse
    Pavoir Sponse wrote:
    True Adolfo and the list was already pretty long, besides I doubt my country would have me these days...
  • 随便叫兽
    随便叫兽 wrote:
    Condolences, Brits.
  • A豆腐
    A豆腐 wrote:
    haha Carlos, you sounds like Alan Moore in the prologue of V. for Vendentta
    I think that all goverments in europe will turn ¨tories¨ in their next elections, begining for my country. Economical crisis are the sales time for usurers and demagogues.

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