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  • wrote:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,685896,00.html

    Delegates from right-wing populist parties from across Europe are descending on Germany this weekend for a conference looking into the possibility of an EU-wide minaret ban. The hosts, an anti-Muslim German group, hope to use the gathering as a springboard to success in local elections.

    What could be more European than a castle? The Continent is dotted with them, often menacingly perched on forested hilltops overlooking rivers or ancient trading routes -- important bastions necessary for the defense of what developed into Europe's long and rich cultural tradition.

    These days, of course, European castles tend to be little more than bucolic tourist attractions. But it is perhaps no accident that a small palace in western Germany's former industrial heart has been chosen to host a convention ostensibly aimed at defending European culture. The castle in question is the centuries-old Horst Palace, a Renaissance structure in the Ruhr Valley city of Gelsenkirchen. The gathering is called, pointedly, the Anti-Minaret Conference.
    This Saturday, politicians representing right-wing conservative parties from across Europe will descend on the Horst Palace to discuss the dangers of Islam. Delegates from the Belgian nationalists Vlaams Belang will be there as will politicians from Geert Wilders's Dutch Party for Freedom and the Front National of Jean-Marie Le Pen. Others from Sweden, Austria and Eastern Europe are also on the invite list.
  • wrote:
    Good action to protect Europe.
    Several days, some guys said racism in China, compared with their own countries, there is no such thing in China.

    I remember the book: American Alone.
    I am waiting for the day.
    http://www.hebookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6977#continue
  • Rebecca Arnesen
    sun said "Several days, some guys said racism in China, compared with their own countries, there is no such thing in China."

    not entirely clear what your point is but if i'm not mistaken are you not doing the same thing as these guys based on a single event? Are you familar with irony?

    racism exists everywhere.
    Including Europe.
    and also China.
    The end.
  • wrote:
    Jarg,

    I did not make my points clearly enough, and it it unnecessary.
    But the news is very interesting and we can expect more in the future.
  • Rebecca Arnesen
    Vlaams Belang was one of the largest Belgian parties, although other parties usually form alliances with their counterparts across the Flemish/Francophone divide (Christian-Democrats, Liberals, Socialists and Greens). It has been growing steadily since 1978, when its predecessor "Vlaams Blok" was formed. Nonetheless, it has no official executive power due to the Cordon Sanitaire, a pact between the other Belgian parties that rejected Vlaams Blok from any governing coalition because the party's views were considered to be morally and politically unacceptable. Vlaams Belang says that its platform now is legally compliant, rendering the cordon sanitaire unjustified. The party, however, would need to convince others to join a coalition because the Belgian political system is based on proportional representation.
  • Rebecca Arnesen
    just an example. Le Pen got dangerously close to power in France, but at least these nutcases are being kept at bay
  • Pete DeMola
    Pete DeMola wrote:
    I met the head of the Vlaams Belang in Antwerp back in 2004. At that point, it was among the most engaging two hours of my then 21-year-old life.

    Very charismatic and slick with words. I could see how folks can be taken in.
  • Rebecca Arnesen
    how did that happen? were you there in some journalistic role?
  • Albulena Imeri
    Hitler was very charismatic, too. Does that statement make me anti-Semitism?
  • Pete DeMola
    Pete DeMola wrote:
    Jarg
    I studied IR in Strasbourg in 2004. As part of our program, we traveled to 10-15 different countries for a seminar on European Identity, meeting with leaders from all across the political spectrum.

    The Vlaams Belang seminar was one of the highlights. Another was catching a glimpse of Milošević's trial at the Hague.
  • Rebecca Arnesen
    shit, sounds like your course was actually interesting and fun!

    On the subject of hitler, i've heard a couple of incidences of mild admiration for hitler in china, he's been described as "spirited" on both occaions, with his nationalism raised as a positive and the citing of his "personal habits" such as non-drinking, non-smoking and vegetarianism. Is this common in China or have i just run into a couple or extreme viewpoints?
  • Daniel Westerberg
    Yes Sun, the world is plagued by racism, but remember, just because other do it, dosn't make it right.

    I don't know what you mean by "Good action to protect Europe."? do you mean to tell us that you think it's a good thing that this kind of crap takes place?
  • Albulena Imeri
    Hitler: Most of the german ppl don't talk abt him. But I was told by a german that the story is more complicated than the text books in AP European History (US high-school).

    Nationalism in Germany and strong support from the German ppl (victimized by France, Britain etc), effectiveness/success of his economic & other social policies, anti-Semitism in Europe and etc.

    For the record, I like Bavarian Jews and all other ppl in the world.
  • Pete DeMola
    Pete DeMola wrote:
    Jarg
    Yeah, it was a blast.

    In regards to the Hitler thing, I've heard that this "mild admiration" (nice euphemism, by the way) stems from Charlie Chaplin's satiric portrayal of him in the "Great Dictator."
  • Albulena Imeri
    Chinese ppl's viewpoint on Hitler: I don't know.
  • wrote:
    Jarg,

    As for Le Pen,I just knew he donated 1,000 tents for those Chines victims during Wenchuan Earthquake.

    http://news.hexun.com/2008-05-27/106269594.html
  • wrote:
    Jimmy,

    Hitler and Antisemitism:
    I saw some news said that Hitler has some blood relationship with Jews.

    "Chinese ppl's viewpoint on Hitler:"
    Most people only knew he was a war criminal and Germany leader.

    I remembered one joke:
    A Chinese student want to apply postgraduate in an American University, the professor asked her one questions during the interview:
    Who are your most adoring persons in history?
    She answered: Chairman Mao and Hitler.
    The professor was surprised to know the answer and said it is common for you to regard Chairman Mao as your hero, but why do you like Hitler, unbelievable!
    Therefore, she was rejected.

    Political right is very important, haha
  • wrote:
    Astaroth,

    "just ask any girl how they do it"
    Do you mean girls will talk slick words in order to get something?
    Poor guy, do not be so tough to those girls, hehe

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