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  • Ryan Sanden
    Ryan Sanden wrote:
    我是瑞恩,美国人,25岁。我跟我女朋友现在一起两年多了,现在开始讨论结婚的可能性和未来的某些安排。她是四川宜宾的,父母做生意。她家庭不算有钱,也不穷。我自己是美国人,07年毕业大学的,08年来北京。我现在北京当电器工程师。我存款的钱不是很多,但是工资现在很好。我自己和女朋友都喜欢存钱,一点儿都不乱花,所以生活情况感觉还可以。

    我们最近开始讨论结婚,所以她也必须跟父母说。她父母早就认识我了,喜欢,至少在他们能接受的范围之内。但是他爸有点感觉因为我是老外所以我肯定很有钱,而且他知道我在一家国外公司当工程师。所以他开始幻想以后的生活,有点像我要负责给他养老一样。我女朋友不同意他的看法,她吗也没什么大要求。。只是她爸。如果他让我给他们一些养老钱而已我能理解,但是他开始暗示我以后要给他买房子和好一点的车!这样我觉得特别不合理,我要中国人的话他一定不会有这样的要求。

    你们认为这样的行为很正常吗?我要尊敬他但是肯定不会同意不合理的要求。还是你们觉得他比较合理,我应该早就知道他会有这样的条件?

    请用中文回复。。。

    And don't troll my thread!

    Ryan Sanden
  • wrote:
    Dear Ryan,

    我要中国人的话他一定不会有这样的要求。
    ==============================
    你的中文真好,呵呵
    先说一个绝对的,如果是个中国男生,不单是要买房买车估计还的养老送终,这个估计大部分中国男士都遇到的问题,所以你不用担心因为你不是中国人,所以对你有这个要求,对中国男人的要求我估计会更多。

    至于买房买车,如果不是在北京,你可以和你女友商量,如果她的父亲实在贪财,那么可以考虑赞助很小一部分,这个看你女友的意见,但是很多地区是有嫁妆一说,不过结婚她们家也会考虑回赠部分,各地风俗不一样;如果在北京买,那就要慎重考虑,除非你钱多的没地方花了。合理不合理不好说了,情况太多种,很复杂,但是我估计肯定不符合美国人的婚姻习惯,也许这算是一个所谓的文化差异吧,呵呵

    在中国结婚,不是两个人的结合,是两个家庭的结合,所以在中国结婚对很多人的压力很大。
  • Zoé
    Zoé wrote:
    天啊~必须先恭维一下,你的中文如此之好
    入正题,我个人觉得您媳妇的老爸有点自私,在中国,大多数的父亲只希望自己的女儿嫁的好,可以幸福的过“好”日子就够了,他老爸又想让你们给买车又想让你们给买房的。有点过了。。
    不过呢,在条件允许的情况下,给老人们买套房子是正常的,在中国,很多儿女也都是这样做。不过通常是老人们都不想让儿女们花这份钱,结果是左劝右劝,房子已经买了之后,老人们才住进去,并不是老人开口让孩子买房子给他们住
  • Ryan Sanden
    Ryan Sanden wrote:
    在中国结婚,不是两个人的结合,是两个家庭的结合,所以在中国结婚对很多人的压力很大。
    ----
    恩,这确实对的。

    但是。。我女朋友也有个弟弟,21岁现在,当兵的。所以负责买房子什么的基本上应该是他。。对吗?不是女儿的丈夫。。?
  • wrote:
    Ryan,

    如果家庭有个弟弟,问题会更多一点,可以看得出来,你女友家庭是在一个宜宾,这属于比较封闭或者属于比较传统的一个地区,嫁出去的女儿泼出去的水,嗯哼,当然会问你要点东西,有的地区是陪嫁,有的地区是男方家庭要出很多彩礼。儿子养老买房,这个看情况,要是她弟弟,或者你以后的小舅子没这个能力,做姐姐的自然会帮助一下,当然应该是尽力而为而不是倾你所有。你可以想别的办法解决这个问题,你可以说你钱不足够多,只能出彩礼钱,或者如果买房,你应该考虑所有权属于你和你女友,或者你和你女友商量,这个要求有点过分,但是你肯定要出一部分钱的,至于多少,问你女友吧,宜宾的婚嫁风俗是如何的。
    你未来的老岳父指望你这个洋女婿过好日子呢,你惨了,哈哈
    你要知道,很多中国男生没房子找不到老婆结婚,你很幸运了,哈哈
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    OK, though you asked for replies in Chinese, I have to say one thing, you are in very good hands ...

    Ryan, 你好... 看了你的中文,我真的不敢说话了,呵呵...老孙说的很对,你女朋友的家庭应该是稍为传统的一些...以前很多香港人去内地找女孩子做老婆,也常常遇到这种情况...

    我很快的说几句...考虑到你们的年纪,而你的工作在中国也是刚起步,你们"逃跑"到美国结婚的可能性应该不大,刚何况,对国内大多数女孩子,要她们这样跑掉,很多都做不出来,因为"不孝"还是一个重罪...

    答你的问题...虽然是不合理,但却是很正常...在中国传统,尤其是比较封建思想的,女儿是"卖"的,不是"嫁"的...因为时间关系,我先说到这里,老孙应该可以帮你理解他们的想法...
  • wrote:
    去美国结婚是多少小资女青年的梦想啊,哈哈,何谈逃到?
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    我觉得zoe说的挺对的~~
    我认识的中国女孩的爸爸都很开明的,只要女儿幸福什么都好(限独生子女),别说不会伸手要,就是倒搭给女儿女婿都是乐意的~~
    你女朋友的爸爸可能比较传统,如果他的要求你经济上能接受满足一下他也没什么不好,但是你如果觉得是原则问题不能妥协,就一定要尽早说开,跟女朋友和她爸爸都沟通好。不然结婚以后问题更多。
    祝幸福~
  • Minger
    Minger wrote:
    Ryan,我觉得中国人避免这个问题的方法就是他们少有这中跨级别的婚姻。北京人找媳妇大概找北京人,免得穷的亲戚要依赖他们来城市。
    我觉得最好是你跟他们说清楚:按照你家人的习俗,你所赚的钱都会送给你自己的父母养老。你不负责养她父母,但是这里很多老人就是很自私,能要就要。不过,你可以期待你的女朋友会把工资全都给父母,自己花你赚的钱。
    我也是美国人,所以我说什么不算什么,就是按我自己的经历插几句而已。
  • Man TianFei
    Man TianFei wrote:
    楼主的中文好好啊!
  • wrote:
    莫名,

    我要批判你对中国社会家庭生活肤浅的认知:
    “少有这中跨级别的婚姻”
    门当户对,基本上属于全世界婚姻的一个潜规则,不过社会发达的好处就是门户之见越来越低;在中国的存在主要是因为贫富差距的问题,社会问题。

    “北京人找媳妇大概找北京人,免得穷的亲戚要依赖他们来城市。”
    ‘Candy Q wrote: Posted 7 seconds ago 我觉得zoe说的挺对的~~
    我认识的中国女孩的爸爸都很开明的,只要女儿幸福什么都好(限独生子女),别说不会伸手要,就是倒搭给女儿女婿都是乐意的~~’

    “你不负责养她父母,但是这里很多老人就是很自私,能要就要。“
    哈哈,因为这些老人的思维观念还比较守旧,有的地区社会保障体系不健全,那么养儿防老就有了,这也是部分地区重男轻女的一个原因;不过中国大部分人的家庭观念和西方差异很大,你说的部分老人自私,也有可能,不过他们死了这些财产怎么分配也是个问题,哈哈

    ”不过,你可以期待你的女朋友会把工资全都给父母,自己花你赚的钱。“
    不知道天天追求男女平等的中国女性会不会接受你这个建议。
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    @sun,他们会不会揩女婿的油补贴儿子儿媳?
    “天天追求男女平等的中国女性”才不会花男人的钱~~哈哈,人家腰杆儿都硬着呢~~
    你引述我的post是想说什么?我认识的爸爸基本都是这样的啊~~
  • wrote:
    糖Q,
    我用你的帖子作答案啊,家庭不一样,自然选择不一样啊。

    '他们会不会揩女婿的油补贴儿子儿媳?"
    你要是有弟弟,估计也会多少帮点忙,她弟弟当兵估计以后也好不到哪去。

    ”才不会花男人的钱~~哈哈,人家腰杆儿都硬着呢~~“
    真好,给我介绍个有钱的吧,哈哈
  • Ryan Sanden
    Ryan Sanden wrote:
    1.) 我们在中国结婚,在中国定居,留下。每年去美国见父母一趟,但不超过一个月。。我在这个工程公司工作很长时间。

    2.) 基本上买一套房子是很难以得到的。很多北京的工作有3倒6千块的工资,两个人在一起一年回省一两万最多。北京的房子100到200万,难道人存钱存50年才买?这简直是不可能的事情,父母要求孩子买房子听起来同样不合理;孩子简直买不起!

    我是美国人,结婚时父母不提供什么。中国男孩比较幸福一点,父母经常给房子,钱。我父母会给我1万人民币最多。我从十八岁就独立了。我爱我父母,但是给钱不是风俗。我不负责他们养老,但我负责自己。这就是美国的习惯。
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    @Sun,
    明白~~帮是应该的,但是“养”就另说了~~
    你是独生子女么?我身边有儿子的父母压力比有女儿的父母大太多了~呵呵~
    好在我还小,我爸妈又比较淡定~
    我没那么多钱,我也不认识有那么多钱的女的~哈,人家真那么牛,从事“追求男女平等”的大事业,拿哪只眼睛看我们这些小人物呢。呵呵。
  • wrote:
    Dear Ryan,

    入乡随俗啊。

    1)你女友过几年会催着你赶快带着她去美国的。

    2)你不用担心北京的房子卖不出去,这个问题很复杂。
    所以我前面说了:你未来的老岳父指望你这个洋女婿过好日子呢,你惨了,哈哈
    你要知道,很多中国男生没房子找不到老婆结婚,你很幸运了,哈哈

    你要对你爸妈说,中国的父母都帮助这么多,你们太过分了,就不能多帮帮我吗?哈哈
    开个玩笑,呵呵
    美国的习惯挺好,不过在中国的可能性比较小,这就是国家的不同,不好解决的问题,呵呵
  • Man TianFei
    Man TianFei wrote:
    瑞恩,你与其把自己的人个问题放到论坛上让大家讨论,不如把你心底这些真实的想法跟你女朋友的父亲直接沟通,以男人对男人的方式,告诉他,你可以给他女儿幸福,可是你们才刚刚开始工作,大家都是普通人,没有什么钱,满足不了他的要求,并且表示你不是拐跑他的女儿,日后还是会孝顺他老人家的。他父亲应该会理解吧!
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    @Ryan Sanden
    美国的习惯在中国是成不了习惯的,比如你可以打工赚大学的学费,但是你在中国打工上大学试试,能赚出生活费都好不错了,不依靠父母是不现实的。中国孩子跟父母的关系没有你们那么独立。相信你也懂得。
    我觉得你应该跟你女朋友沟通好,你们俩需要有默契,很多事情你和她爸爸不好说,但是她可以说。明白?
  • wrote:
    糖Q,
    ”我身边有儿子的父母压力比有女儿的父母大太多了~呵呵~“
    这个说实在的,不是这样的,大龄女青年嫁不出去问题更大,咔咔
    再说了,结婚不结婚又不是多大的事情,你说呢?

    Dear Ryan,
    ”我是美国人,结婚时父母不提供什么。“

    以后要说:我快是中国男人了,中国男人比较悲惨。

    哈哈
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    @sun,
    你不要这样,人家Ryan不是说他女朋友不同意她爸爸的看法嘛。别一杆子把人都打死。中国女孩里不为金钱所动的还是大有其人的。
    我说有儿子的父母压力大是因为他们都想要准备房子。。没有别的意思。。
    我还不是大龄女青年,体会不到她们有什么问题,哈哈
    唉。你给他灌输那么多负面思想干嘛,我觉得人家明明可以解决问题结婚过小日子的嘛。中国男人悲惨,中国女人就不悲惨了?
    Cheers~~
  • wrote:
    糖Q,
    ”他女朋友不同意她爸爸的看法嘛“
    其实她爸爸的看法没太大错误,社会习惯不一样,比如印度出嫁女儿是要陪嫁大量的金银财物,不信你自己可以了解一下,这个谈不上对错,所以不要上升到”负面思想“这个高度,等你再过几年你会体会到有一些所谓”陋俗“有其合理性。建议有机会美国生活几年,欧洲生活几年,或者至少也改了解一下各地的风俗。

    ”不是大龄女青年“
    不清楚,大不大自己决定啊,你说呢,哈哈
    不过看着挺嫩的,哈哈

    ”结婚过小日子的嘛“
    婚前这点问题都搞不定, 还结婚过日子?
    恕我直言,柴米油盐酱醋茶,等你理解了,你自然会改变你的看法,呵呵
  • wrote:
    糖Q,
    来给你普及一下印度的婚礼:
    http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5484c5f50100f8j1.html
    和中国不同的一点还有,印度人家的女儿出嫁,父母是要给很丰厚的陪嫁的,如果少了,就要被夫家的人瞧不起,以后在家里就没有地位。而男方往往通过婚礼,得到一大笔财富。(俺常常跟老公开玩笑说,他可是失去了一次发财的好机会,因为俺是中国人,爹妈把俺培养出来,自己就是“陪嫁”,哪有让娘家再“放血”的道理?)
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    @Sun,我没有说她爸爸看法错啊,这里本来没有谁对谁错啊,我不是说他“应该跟他女朋友沟通好,有默契,因为他跟她爸爸不好说的事情她可以说”。“但是沟通不好以后问题更多。”。
    。。。跟你说话可累死我了。。。
    我是个小屁孩儿。掺和不动你们大人的事儿了。闪了。
  • wrote:
    ”我是个小屁孩儿。掺和不动你们大人的事儿了。闪了。“
    我也不大啊,那我也闪了。
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    more than surprise, SHOCKED~~~
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    No Name, 跟这儿喊谁姐呢?
    一会儿Ryan就上来发飙,几个跑题大王。。。呵呵
  • wrote:
    糖Q,

    ”Ryan就上来发飙,几个跑题大王“
    你不用担心,我们的讨论很有价值,因为Ryan同学虽然中文说的写的这么好,但是依然目前为止没有理解未来中国岳父的想法,不是一个好事情。目前看,他女友肯定没太多要求,那么她父亲的要求也是可以解决的,问题不大。
  • Candy Q
    Candy Q wrote:
    对嘛对嘛~~这回100%同意~~解决问题才是王道~~
  • wrote:
    不过Ryan同学的美国价值观是需要调整的,不然以后还会继续遇到问题,结婚只是婚姻的开始,后面长着呢。
  • Bobo
    Bobo wrote:
    中文太好了~~·
    不过我不觉得她父亲的要求合理呀。。。。
    我建议你可以让你女朋友和她父母沟通,我一向觉得,各人负责各人的父母,这样比较方便沟通,毕竟结婚以后还有很长一段时间会和相互的父母相处。一旦他们认为你是一个取款机,那么最终你会崩溃的。。。会不断提出各种条件的。。。
  • wrote:
    我觉得这就是明显的文化差异,确实是不可避免的,但是尽最大的努力去克服吧
  • Marlene Sannes
    Ryan sorry for do not write in chinese ..
    Before the reform and opening, marriage with foreigners was extremely rare in China. In fact, it was not far from thinking that a union of this kind revealed a "political issue" in the person's spouse Chinese. Since the reform, intermarriage is increasing: from 1996 to 2002, more than 21,000 couples have registered the marriage registers of the city of Shanghai, which gives us an average of 3,000 couples a year.
    Mixed marriages in recent years show a remarkable feature: the more often they are young Chinese women who marry foreigners mature, even nationals of Hong Kong and Macau. To take the example of Shanghai, the age difference between spouses has been for a very long 10 years and a half. 13% of couples were formed of spouses belonging to different generations, a difference of 20 years. In 1996 it was even attended the wedding of an American 81 years with Shanghai 27 years.
    The age difference is actually not the major problem of mixed marriages. In these couples, the man enjoys two advantages: the national and foreign capital. The old saying that people marry for "what to wear and eat" seems to receive as a striking confirmation. Poverty leads so many Chinese and especially many Chinese to forgo unions more natural.
    However, where intermarriage is changing.
  • kö
    wrote:
    那她爸爸也太可爱了,显然 有点不和情理,瑞恩同学还是和他爸爸好好的谈谈这个问题吧,或者通过你女朋友来表达下你的看法,祝好运··
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    哈哈...刚吃饭回来...

    我说的"卖"女儿,确实是令人反感的,但我希望你们明白,这些父母是真正存在的,只是你们没有碰见过或听过...

    至于我说"逃跑"...呵呵...我们以前比较喜欢用的两个字是"私奔"...我的意思是,考虑到他们的年纪和背景,要瞒着她的父母,静悄悄走到美国结婚,是不可能的...

    中文就是烂...呵呵...真不好意思...
  • wrote:
    叮当,

    人家养大个女儿不容易啊,要点彩礼也不过分。
    ‘私奔’?现在还有这么含蓄的事情?

    你吃的什么大餐?
    要睡觉了,呵呵
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    老孙妹妹...呵呵...今晚去的是"男孩女孩",但没有什么好吃...

  • 王经纬
    王经纬 wrote:
    注意:应该是“电气工程师”,而不是“电器工程师”

    回LZ的话题,这种问题基本因人而异,没什么好的答案和解决办法。阿弥陀佛
    BTW还好您是米国男人,中国男人更悲惨,这是真的。您在米国从父母那得到的钱少,但是负责的事情,或者义务也没那么多。矛盾是成对出现,有果必有因。
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    OK ... 睡了一觉,看了所有人的意见,我再来加一点点(写完才发现,写了不止一点点,呵呵)...

    Ryan...我留意到你也来看过我的页面,谢谢光临,呵呵...我是一个不中不西的香港人,这么多年以来,也确实听过很多类似你们这一种的个案...很简单的说,我觉得跟你是不是美国人,其实没有直接关系,但很有可能明,他们对外国人也有一种不现实的expectation...

    先离题一会儿...

    我曾经碰到一位女士,她是从美国来北京大学当医科老师的,她跟我买保险的时候,说了很多次国内的医院对外国人和中国人的不公平处理和收费方法...就是说,处理方法其实是一样的,但收费却可能是贵很多,这个简单的例子就可以说明,中国人普遍对外国人有一种想法,就是外国人的钱比中国人多...

    再说说一些不分中国人和外国人,也会有的情况...

    人,无论是中国人或外国人,很少会不喜欢show-off 的(广东话,我们用一个"晒"字,呵呵) ...读过书的人(或自视很高的人)会"晒才华",漂亮的人会"晒外貌",不管有钱没钱的人喜欢"晒钱",这几个大类我们每天都会见到...要是为人父母的话,就多一样可以"晒"的,就是自己的儿女,媳妇,女婿,孙子etc 的成功,这一项,无论是中国人,外国人,都是差不多的...

    谈到子女这方面,中国人有一种传统叫"养儿防老",就是说把孩子养大,供书教学,培养他们成才,然后自己晚年的时候,不能工作赚钱了,孩子可以给自己一些钱来养老(甚至大家一起住)...很有趣的是,中欧某几个国家其实也有这种思想,特别是意大利和希猎...

    把这两点归纳起来,很多做爹做妈的中国人,要是可以有机会站出来跟别人炫耀自己的儿,女,媳,婿,孙给自己买了什么什么的,那确实是一种光荣,一种life time achievement...在70,80,可能是一部彩电(或冰箱),现在生活水平提高了,就变成房子,车子了...要是可以让他们站在别人面前说,"你看,这个房子是我儿子(或女儿,或女婿,很少会说媳妇,呵呵)买给我养老的"...看见别人对自己的羡慕,那一种自豪感和满足感,不是一般人可以明白的...

    看到这里...我们可以说他的要求是"合理"的...但这个"理"却不能是不现实的...

    ****

    你说"结婚的可能性和未来的某些安排"..."在中国定居,留下"...可不可以说一下,你们是打算逗留到什么时候?

    另外..."我存款的钱不是很多,但是工资现在很好"...你可能不方便说你的工资和存款多少,但可不可以说一下,你们俩的financial plan 大概是什么情况吗?

    我给你们的第一个建议...既然他们是做生意的,那么我估计时间方面还是比较充裕的吧?你们俩可以利用春节这个其间,把他们接来北京,跟你们一起生活一段时间...让他们了解一下(特别是"他"),你们的生活是舒服但不是豪华,富裕的,那么他们可能会了解到自己的要求不是很现实...

    你觉得怎么样?呵呵...写得也真的太多了...
  • Save Our Planet
    Ryan,

    I have friends marrying Chinese women from China. Ended it up 90% went broke and apart. Remember marrying a Chinese woman will more than just marrying her whole family. I am sure her brother wants you to help him immigrate to USA one day. Then her brother's family comes into play. It's a huge bag holder seeing no bottom. You better make sure you are financialy strong. Also check with your lawyer drawing prenuptial agreement. You know what you get if you get divorced in USA. You don't want to end it up homeless.
  • Man TianFei
    Man TianFei wrote:
    Save Our Planet
    你也太偏激了吧,不能拿不好的例子来吓唬别人,你干啥不说,即便同一国籍的人结婚,现在离婚率也很高。
    并不是所有中国人都那么向往外国的月亮,一般人在中国活下去都很困难,更何况那么自不量力滴跑到一个语言不通,更加人生地不熟的世界里去?
    人家ryan女朋友家就一个女儿,一个儿子,父母在,子部远行,你怎么就断定人家的弟弟会让麻烦姐夫帮他办理移民。

    同学们,不要以己度人哦~
  • Save Our Planet
    Ryan,

    Below was a short story circulated around for reference. A frind of mine married a girl from Tianjin. After bringing her to US, he found serious problems and decided to get divoced. The whole process was less than three months. I have witnessed that tragedy.

    男人該看,女人得看還要給要來大陸的男友/老公看-------要耐心看完全文喔 ,否則結論相差十萬八千里


    Part-1
    “台灣男人愛上大陸女人”
    這樣的情形在現今2009早不是新聞啦.為什麼台灣男人會愛上大陸女人?
    不管單身的台灣男人還是已婚的台灣男人,有機會來到中國大陸的台灣男人,100個台灣男人有101個都會愛上大陸女人!

    就我個人覺得...
    我以前在台灣也有交過幾個台灣女朋友.對台灣的女孩...總覺得自己沒有像男人的感覺.

    因為...

    1.台灣女孩好像都非常的看重金錢.(拜託我才20幾歲我哪來那麼多錢).
    大陸女孩好像並不會很看重金錢.(我也不知道她是看上我哪一點).

    2.台灣女孩隨便身上都提著名牌的包包.(一個幾千甚至1~2萬台幣ㄟ).
    大陸女孩隨便地攤買的包包耐用就好(好像一個才30元人民幣).

    3.
    台灣女孩...出去玩沒車沒人要理你(台灣女孩會說最好你要開雙B).
    大陸女孩...我們一起坐公交車和地鐵或火車.(大陸女孩會說”打的”<坐計程車>那麼貴...該省就要省).

    4.台灣女孩.你帶他去吃一人499的自助式餐廳都吃海鮮ㄟ.(她會嫌你沒行情)
    大陸女孩.你帶她去小尾羊火鍋一桌150元人民幣,2人都還吃不完.(她會說我們要省一點).

    5.台灣女孩.休假就要求你帶他去逛百貨公司(叫你買東西給她...因為隔壁的小美她男朋友都有買).
    大陸女孩.休假時會買菜來家裡煮東西給你吃.(叫你不要常吃外面的東西,外面的東西很貴又沒營養).

    6.台灣女孩從家裡要來...她會叫你幾點到她家載.(她會說坐火車車票要350元很貴而且衣服很多太重提不動...拜託台北-台中來回油錢不是錢嗎)
    大陸女孩從家裡要來...3天前就在家鄉火車站打電話叫你早點睡覺,因為火車要三天後才到.然後三天後你就會看到一位提著大包小包的小女孩.(包裡都裝著她在家鄉帶來的特產).

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Part-2
    當台灣男人和大陸女人交往1年之後......

    1.台灣女人開始忙碌的準備賺錢為結婚基金做準備...(她會說結婚靠男人的薪水是不夠的).
    大陸女人開始放下自己的工作準備全心全意做你的賢妻良母...(人的惰性開始出現啦).

    2.台灣女人會開始要找你一起買以後2個人結婚後的房子.(一起奮鬥賺錢買房子喔...)
    大陸女人會開始跟你說她爸媽住在鄉下的房子漏水很嚴重...(叫你出錢在內地她家鄉建個新房子).

    3.過年時
    台灣女人會幫你買回家的禮物(暗示你該帶她回家給父母看啦)
    大陸女人會叫你要包多少紅包給她父母還有她家人的孩子(因為你是台灣人你不能失禮啊).

    4.之後...
    台灣女人放假有空就會陪你媽媽去逛菜市場.(開始為婚姻生活做準備囉)
    大陸女人會跟你說她弟弟讀大學要註冊費,要你幫忙繳學費.(哇...那又不是我兒子).

    5.要結婚時...
    台灣女人會說我們先住在家裡,等錢存夠再買房子.(這樣也對啦...媳婦還要跟婆婆學持家之道).
    大陸女人會說父母要我們在上海買間房子才可以結婚....到時候再把父母接來一起住.(哇…我娶一個老婆還要養一堆人喔).
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    之後這個台灣男人覺得,大陸女人只能愛上......卻不能迷戀…..更不能結婚...
    台灣男人二話不說趁著大陸女人還在睡覺...
    連夜搭最後一班的飛機回台灣...
    在飛機上心裡想...
    好險喔...我終於醒來啦...
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    哈哈...为什么是"必须"呢?...又,什么是"国际工资"呢?

    虽然说我不认识很多人,但我很相信在这个网站(和北京,甚至国内)有很多外国人(或外国回来的中国人)都不是什么国际工资的...

    Ryan 这个问题的解决方法,不应该用钱去解决,因为可以满足一时,不一定能够满足一世...解决这一类问题,应该用沟通,了解...
  • Save Our Planet
    I have a friend. His Chinese wife was from Beijing. She insisted to bring her mom to US to live with them. After that then, she insisted to bring her sister's daughter to go to high school in US. But end it up my firend has to spend a lot of time taking care of her family from China. They don't speak Englsih and they don't drive. They don't have medical insurance. Finally, my friend went broke and field chapter 11. She dumped my friend and disappeared somewhere. Lastly we heard she came back to Beijing hunting for next victim. Well she got her US green card now and she can do anything she wants.
  • Save Our Planet
    No name,

    台湾男人真是太有吸引力了.....真的!!!!.....老外我更爱耶!!因为都好有钱的。

    - - - - - - - -

    I have been traveling to China for more than 10 years. I saw a lot of that. It was true.
  • Save Our Planet
    No name,

    China has become the world largest consumer market for luxurious products. China has become the world largest corruption country I have ever seen. Rich people are trying to immigrate to or smuggle into US. Take a look at the long line waiting outside of US embassy.
  • Save Our Planet
    There were two hundred Chinese people smuggled into Haiti missing or stranded in earthquake. According to reports, they are NOT from poor families.
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    哈哈,有意思。
    你是台湾人吧?
    台湾人名声在中国很差,不要忘了我告诉过你这个事情,呵呵
  • Save Our Planet
    There have been over 5,000 Chinese women married to Taiwan according to reports in 2009. Over half of the marriages went failed.
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    Hahaha ... Mr Planet, although such cases do exist, and I have heard even worse, horror stories are not going to help Ryan with his problem ...
  • wrote:
    叮当,

    Save Our Planet估计还是生活在30年前的台湾人,天天被洗脑说中国多差,中国差,这不也混到中国来了,在中国开工厂名声最差的就是台湾人。反正我不喜欢他们,呵呵
  • Save Our Planet
    There was this famous case five years ago in Shanghai. A Taiwanese young man refused to marry her Shanghainess girl friend. Her gril friend with the help of her brothers kipnapped the young man and slaughter him piece by piece for seven days. They dumped his pieces of body into a river 3 hours west of Shanghai. The court sealed the case without trial. After US and Taiwanese government protest, the court finally opend the case and sentenced the murders.
  • Man TianFei
    Man TianFei wrote:
    Save Our Planet wrote:
    。。。。。 got her US green card now and she can do anything she wants.

    台搞笑了,说得好像绿卡是无限额提款卡一样,拿了之后,那个女人就一辈子不用自己奋斗了。
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    理解楼主的感受也同意莫明的主张。。。确实要‘入乡随俗’理解不同的文化差异,包括您未来的岳父也要理解您的感受。。。因为你要娶的不是本地的且家又是小城市的LADY,想往美好生活是每个人的愿望,她父母有这样的想法一点也不奇怪,但你必须做好‘思想准备’,你的家有可能变成‘驻京办事处’,这没什么好奇怪的,生活中的例子比比皆是,就是看您能否接受,但必须想好。。。您未来的岳父要是开明之人的话就应该理解这句话:有都少钱办多少钱的事!就不会给你压力了,但这要因人而异。。。我同事的老公是一澳洲机长,也是在充分理解‘中国文化’之后给他的岳母买了房子在北京,虽然他的岳母并没有要求买房子,他们只是让老人家生活条件更好一些,尽些做儿女的孝道但也是在他们的能力范围之内。。。生活中还会遇到许多事,尤其是文化差异。。。祝你:GOOD LUCK!
  • Save Our Planet
    Lin XiaoMan,

    台搞笑了,说得好像绿卡是无限额提款卡一样,拿了之后,那个女人就一辈子不用自己奋斗了。

    - - - - - -

    Yes, I saw a lot of women using marriage as a step stone to change lifes.

    There was a report publsihed two years ago saying more and more young American reluctant to get marriaged in certificate. They have develoepd a new kind of "binding" relationship without legal implication that combines prenuptial and household concepts.
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    哈哈...老孙妹妹,你也早啊...在国内开工厂的,也不止台湾人吧?还有香港人和东南亚华侨...

    我们当然可以谈谈台湾人(或香港人)的什么什么,但还是尊重一下Ryan,不要把话题拉扯得太远了...你帮我看看我说的一大篇,有什么遗漏和需要补充的吧...你嫂要吃肯德基,我们先出去了...呵呵...
  • Save Our Planet
    I have another friend who was a retired Air Force pilot in Arizona. He married a Chinese gril from Beijing also. Her father kept asking him to invite him over to Las Vega. Her father was a big fan of gambling. Finally he called off the marriage.
  • Save Our Planet
    It was Las Vegas. Sorry for the typo.
  • wrote:
    叮当,

    国内‘血汗工厂’主要是台湾人杰作,香港人开厂基本属于中规中矩,不违法就行,英国人的特点,东南亚华侨目前不是主力了吧,我也不清楚,但是国内比较大的血汗工厂对大陆工人最差的就是台湾人的企业,所以学历基本高点,能力稍微好点的人就业都不会去台湾人开的企业,这些只是事实了,比如Ryan说3-6k的薪水50年买房,可是Ryan也要知道,事实上,北京的薪水对很多人是10万-30万年薪之间,而且有的好的单位是有福利房的,但是显然不是所有人可以享受到的,社会发展程度比较低,而且分配不合理的问题,呵呵

    和谁结婚我可管不着,你带嫂夫人吃肯德基啊?为啥不做饭,哈哈
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun,

    Please do not attack people just because of the comfort of your mouse.

    You need to learn how to respect other people's race, nationality and culture.
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    哎呀,好了,你也得更新一下自己的数据库了。
    我觉得你说的部分是事实和客观存在的,我也比较了解。
    不过我也知道嫁给台湾人的很多大陆女人的情况,我觉得过得幸福就可以了。
    就和在台湾有很多越南和菲律宾新娘一样。

    还有,别respect不respect,你讲话一定的注意对象,对我这种接受过高等教育并且熟悉世界情况的人来说,你需要更新知识库。

    我说的‘血汗工厂‘的事情,你也可以了解一下,帮助中国提升工人的待遇和福利,尤其是台湾工厂应该做到这一点,这才属于respect human rights。

    顺便说一下,你的race和我没区别;你的国籍未定,要是入籍美国了,挺好;文化,台湾所谓保留中国文化也只是个伪概念,不过中国大陆的文化建设的确够呛,呵呵
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    怎么议起‘台湾人’了呢?我们大家都跑题啦。。。
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun wrote

    国内‘血汗工厂’主要是台湾人杰作,香港人开厂基本属于中规中矩,不违法就行,英国人的特点,东南亚华侨目前不是主力了吧,我也不清楚,但是国内比较大的血汗工厂对大陆工人最差的就是台湾人的企业,所以学历基本高点,能力稍微好点的人就业都不会去台湾人开的企业,这些只是事实了,比如Ryan说3-6k的薪水50年买房,可是Ryan也要知道,事实上,北京的薪水对很多人是10万-30万年薪之间,而且有的好的单位是有福利房的,但是显然不是所有人可以享受到的,社会发展程度比较低,而且分配不合理的问题,呵呵

    - - - - - -

    Two years ago you people compalined about South Korean business in China. The same compalint made just like yours. Now it is Taiwan.

    What's wrong with you people? Are you a professional paid basher hired by communist party?
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    请你以后说话注意点,wrong不wrong的你可以离开中国啊。
    你给我付工资吗?好像所有和你看法不一致的,都是hired by communist party,你大脑病的不轻,建议去医院看看吧。
  • Save Our Planet
    Boys and girls,

    Can you guys be a more loving people? Remember what was the slogan you made for 2008 Olympic game - "one world one ??" (Sorry I forgot about the slogan)

  • Save Our Planet
    Sun,

    If I hire you and pay you, will you say something good about Taiwan or US?
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    很奇怪,你在这里要求这个那个,请问你是不是一个loving person呢?
    你在这里发了那么多negative的news,你想证明什么呢?
    说明你是个loving person吗?你又不比我长得帅,又不比我聪明,又不比我优秀,为什么觉得你要在一个比我高的位置上要求别人呢?你这个心态能不能纠正一下?
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    哈哈...老孙妹妹,通常我们周末的午餐都在外面搞掂...

    你们各位又扯远了...我们这里是讨论Ryan的问题,不是台湾开工厂...我出去了...
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    @Save Our Planet
    your friend's story is very intereting:what reason caused the pilot to call of his marriage? He was disgusted with his father-in-law or his wife? The marriage also likes gambling,it depends your luck n how to operat it...the success rate is half n half...
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    你给不起薪水啊,国内政府五毛钱一个帖子,再说了,说好说坏不是钱的问题,而是意识的问题,这点你都没搞清楚,比如说台湾人的‘血汗工厂’属于违法,但是很多台湾商人行贿地方政府,相互勾结,在舆论和处置上都被忽略了,请问一下你提到的法制、loving、respect了,这些台湾商人有什么?为了钱,这些人什么都可以不需要,我估计你也是其中一员吧,所以Save Our Planet,谈话之前先想一下自己说的话有多虚伪。
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun wrote:

    你可以离开中国啊。

    - - - - -

    You are right. I am closing my offices in China. I am leaving. I am going to switch my investments to India and Vietnam. I had enough with Chinese endless and rapacious corruptions.
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    很高兴你做出正确的选择啊。
    By the way, ndia and Vietnam比中国更rapacious corruptions.
    一定做好准备。
    还有,请不要把自己生意的失败归结于外因,中国的发展处于转型期,过了80、90年代上个时期的低技术类型的或者加工型的投资了,很多都往更高的产业端发展。

    我个人的看法中国应该多关掉一些资源消耗大,待遇低,没人性的血汗工厂,为人类的发展做出应该的贡献。
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    Corruption Perceptions Index 2009
    http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table
    这是世界一个权威组织公布的腐败指数:
    China 74
    India 84
    Vietnam 120

    看来情况不妙,第三世界的腐败是个全世界关注的议题,中国政府今年打击腐败力度很大,不过比先进国家依然落后,不过India和Vietnam只比中国差不比中国好,我很担忧你的选择。
  • Save Our Planet
    The good thing is India and Vietname will repay you a good contract. Chinese don't. They deceived frist and then they hit & ran. And they hide away. There is no honest among thieves in China.
  • Save Our Planet
    No Name wrote:

    你能不能说中文啊!你又能看懂

    - - - - -

    I wish I can. Sorry.
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet
    wrote: Posted 1 minutes ago The good thing is India and Vietname will repay you a good contract. Chinese don't. They deceived frist and then they hit & ran. And they hide away. There is no honest among thieves in China.
    ==================
    哈哈,我很同情你的遭遇,说实在的,你说着的这些貌似是中国商人对台湾商人和韩国商人的印象,所以你前面提到什么complain Korean businessman,原因你可以看新闻:
    http://news.022china.com/2008/12-23/16911_0.html
    韩企欠薪撤离愈演愈烈
    不是因为中国方面的问题,而是他们自身违法欠薪潜逃,这种行为赤裸裸的把韩国商人的名誉毁坏了,有的时候你的看到问题的本质。比如现在中国大陆所有流行的骗术,通过信用卡,手机以及网络诈骗,基本都是台湾人过来操纵和组织的,因为这些诈骗方式都是台湾80-90年代上世纪早就流行的,中国总体换是比较落后的。
    我对你还是很了解的,你属于那种早期在台湾接受国民党教化,年轻留学美国的优秀台湾年轻人,以后趁着投资中国热潮来到中国,不过生意总有好有坏,但是中国的投资环境依然是世界上最好的之一,原因简单啊,法制不健全,政府对经济发展的扶植是其他国家羡慕的,行政资源垄断,可以帮助投资人很快在中国成功。

    还有,顺便说:国外诈骗和信誉比较低的就是印度人和土耳其人,Save Our Planet你在美国待了这么多年,这些情况都不了解?我真的服了你了。
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun,

    I sell private jets. I know where I should go. China is a dishonest place. People are more deceiving than usual. Unfortunately.

    You kept mentioning and bickering about Taiwan. I don't know about Taiwan. The only thing I knew is Taiwanese people are much polit and prettier. They are more respectful by foreigners.
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun,

    You hate so much about American, S. Korean, Taiwanese and westners. What countries do you like most? I bet you like Iran, N. Korea.

    Right?
  • Save Our Planet
    No Name wrote:
    那你能看懂,晕

    - - - -

    What is 晕? Make your head dizzy? Why would I?
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    不要这么愤世嫉俗了。
    I sell private jets,我好佩服,成功人士。

    China is a dishonest place. People are more deceiving than usual. Unfortunately.
    我不反对你的个人看法,我也认为中国目前世风日下,社会道德腐坏,但是我依然有信心,未来会好转,毕竟你在这个国家也待了很久,你也在全世界有过游历,你的阅历会帮助你有更好的见解。

    You kept mentioning and bickering about Taiwan.
    你不用担心我在这里造谣,我说的都是事实,台湾部分商人的行为比我说的有过之而无不及,不过这也有中国政府放纵的责任。

    The only thing I knew is Taiwanese people are much polite and prettier. They are more respectful by foreigners.
    我觉得大部分发达国家的人民都比较polit and prettier,原因简单仓廪实而知礼节,所以我早就说了,给中国一些时间吧,一个温饱的国家请你不要有太高的期望,你也是这个过程经历过来的。

    They are more respectful by foreigners.
    这个真谈不上,我依然相信没有一个强大的国家,谈不上被人尊重,事实上我觉得你的感受应该比我深,你有那么多阅历和财富,你的race也是帮助你在中国开拓生意的一个因素,为什么那么多国外的企业在中国的高管都是台湾人呢?

    你作为一个拥有private jets(看到了,不是一架哦,好几架)的成功businessman,你的智慧和能力应该不会叫你有如上的一些偏激的语言,我只能说可能你的确目前lose yourself了。
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet wrote:
    You hate so much about American, S. Korean, Taiwanese and westners. What countries do you like most? I bet you like Iran, N. Korea.
    Right?
    ===============
    你这么有钱,你那天请我吃饭喝酒吧,可以叫上不中不洋的叮当,当然有外国友人愿意参加也是可以的,当然你这么有钱,你可以考虑做东,我们可以谈谈,我虽然没太大智慧和才华,不过大家聊聊也就清楚,其实不是这么回事。
    顺便说不定,你们可以帮我介绍个高薪工作,那就感激不尽了,呵呵
  • Save Our Planet
    Thank you, Sun. Finally you have some senses. Keep yourself up and learn what you can do to help your country.

    There are so many rich people in this country. I have tried to persuade my rich customers to orgnaize a charity fund or something donation organization. Ask them to help those poors. Ask them to put money where good things can become. They all refused. They prefer putting money on gambling table or hiring their mistresses.
  • 微笑的Min
    微笑的Min wrote:
    在中国,养老是必须的,这是传统,更是美德。不过现在大多数父母都不是很在意养老的钱了,相反很多父母会倒贴子女,比如说买房之类的,因为他们觉得自己的孩子更需要这笔钱。
    钱在爸妈看来不是很重要的,但是假如你能挣钱,他们还是希望你能让他们生活过得更好一些,比如说买房买车之类的(PS:地方的房价还没有北京、上海城市这么疯狂),我觉得爸妈提出买房的要求确实过了,要是我爸妈绝对不会提,但是你要提出资助一部分买车钱,他们会觉得在亲戚朋友面前特别有面子,觉得这孩子真懂事,还能赚钱,以后一定能给自己女儿带来幸福。然后碰到你有困难的时候,他们是很愿意拿出自己的钱来帮助你的。
    我觉得现在中国爸妈大部分都是这样吧,因为子女都是独生一代,而爸妈不太缺钱,更多的是希望子女幸福。
    不过瑞恩要是负担不起这种面子消耗品,可以跟女方爸妈讲清楚,其实爸妈也能理解,但是你需要准备一个大大大红包哦~
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun wrote:

    你这么有钱,你那天请我吃饭喝酒吧,可以叫上不中不洋的叮当,当然有外国友人愿意参加也是可以的,当然你这么有钱,你可以考虑做东,我们可以谈谈,我虽然没太大智慧和才华,不过大家聊聊也就清楚,其实不是这么回事。
    顺便说不定,你们可以帮我介绍个高薪工作,那就感激不尽了,呵呵

    - - - - - - - -

    I don't trust Chinese people anymore. They are so many undercover securities. They all worked for communist private party. They don't protect and work for people any more.

  • wrote:
    Save Our Plane,

    They prefer putting money on gambling table or hiring their mistresses.
    哈哈,你说的完全没错,你接触的中国所谓上层肯定比我多。

    I have tried to persuade my rich customers to orgnaize a charity fund or something donation organization. Ask them to help those poors.
    这个比较徒劳吧,他们的金钱来路大部分都不合法或者很sinful。

    Keep yourself up and learn what you can do to help your country.
    我目前先得help myself啊,没这个能力啊,没办法,事实而已。
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun, nice talking with you. I got to go. Hope to see you on the web next time.

  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,
    I don't trust Chinese people anymore. They are so many undercover securities. They all worked for communist private party. They don't protect and work for people any more.

    一朝被蛇咬十年怕井绳,Save Our Planet,你以为想做undercover securities就能做?那也的三辈清白啊,有社会关系才能做undercover securities,你过虑了,难道舍不得花钱请我和叮当吃饭喝酒?也太过分了吧,Private jet你都卖了,又不缺钱。
  • Ryan Sanden
    Ryan Sanden wrote:
    Thank you everyone for your replies. I have received the information I needed. I wanted to know how many of you feel that this situation is reasonable and how many do not. Special thanks to those who stayed on topic and answered my question directly.

    Save Our Planet, please stop trolling my thread. You make some valid points, but you fail to realize that I have already planned for and solved the problem that you are referencing.
  • Save Our Planet
    Ryan,

    Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Sometimes you can outbeat the truth and be a new fiction.

    Good luck on your marriage in China.


    - Save Our Planet
  • Ryan Sanden
    Ryan Sanden wrote:
    thanks guys
  • Save Our Planet
    Ryan,

    You seemed a good American young man. I can tell. Honest and open-minded.

    - Save Our Planet
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    where r u from-'save Our Planet'??? PLS STOP SAYING your malicious remarks to my country-China! I love my country and i'm very proude of coz i' m living here.If u do not like her pls go to other country to sell yr jet,u will loss a lot of your business... u can ask urself :why u come here to deal wz yr business?becasue we are RICH now!
    You should accept '入乡随俗' if u want to stay here to sell yr jet or other things but not YR THOUGHTS!!!
  • wrote:
    Yes Sir,

    We should stop talking about topics like China VS {other country}, haha
    Just as Aurélien said, it seems that every thread will turn into China VS {other country}.

    Do you have some interesting topic?
  • 哎呀
    哎呀 wrote:
    Ryan, I have to say your girlfriends' father is kind of unusual. My father would never ask that and I never heard any of my friends' parents ask those material things. Most Chinese parents would love to help their children to buy an apartment when they get married.

    If your girlfriend's parents live in a very shabby house, I think you and your girlfriend should help them; but if the situation is like you claimed, her parents are not very poor and they could make a decent life in the hometown, then I don't think you have any responsibility to buy the house or car for them. IT'S NOT FAIR AND NOT RIGHT.

    Try to have a good communication with them. Try to let them understand you are just an ordinary employee, not some super rich guy. Living in big cities like Beijing is not that easy to you and your girlfriend. If they love their daughter more than money, they will be convinced eventually...
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    @ Yes Sir,
    Of course i know what means of China n pls do not ask so easy question:'Do you know China what does mean ? '
    let me tell u:China is a big & great country which is attracting many people from all over the world to come here including u...in Chinese word and characters:中国! This is u must to be wised up!
  • wrote:
    http://www.weliveinbeijing.com/discussion/thread.rails?Tid=1000002307
    I posted a similar one several days ago containing information to donate money through China Red Cross.

    Donation to Earthquake hit Haitian.
    n china, you can donate through China Red Cross:
    http://www.redcross.org.cn/xxfb/gg/201001/t20100114_34983.html

    Oversea:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HaitiEarthquake/haiti-earthquake-donations-haiti-relief-efforts-text-message/story?id=9551199
    http://www.mgive.com/

    "Text 'HAITI' to 90999 to donate $10 to Red Cross relief efforts!" or, "Text 'Yele' to 501501 to donate $5 to the Yele Haiti Earthquake Fund."

    Hi, guys, if you want to donate, please check and confirm the donation account is legitimate.

    Thanks.
  • wrote:
    http://www.weliveinbeijing.com/discussion/thread.rails?Tid=1000001779
    Sex with ...
    How about sex with animal? haha
  • wrote:
    Sun i never see u into about a interesting topic .. only see into in the opposite ..
    ======================
    you do not need to see interesting topics initiated by me.
    I like to attend interesting topic just like this thread: Chinese Fathers, hehe
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    Hahahaha ... Sun ... did Ryan get back to you? He told me he is OK now, so, I think we can leave this thread for others to play, what do you think?
  • Miller
    Miller wrote:
    HAHAHAHA "
    waiting for reply ... lool..
  • Winnie
    Winnie wrote:
    i think it's common for the parents to want the best for their children. but personally, even as chinese myself, i dont think it should be an requirement for the son in law. it's kinda wide spread in chinese culture to have a house to live and a car when two ppl get married.
    but actually, what really matters is how do you feel? how does she feel?
    it sounds like you guys have a solid good relationship. so if you cant afford a house now, dont worry about it. if she thinks its a problem, then maybe u should think twice before you get married. it doesnt hurt to wait one or two more years to see if you are more important or the house.
    as to her parents..u dont need to satisfy them. just respect them and take care of their daughter and make her happy. if u guys want to get married, they cant stop you. can they?
    i think it's unreasonable for their parents to ask you to do this and that, especially you guys are not wasting money.
    just tell them why not and be polite
  • NN
    NN wrote:
    @Save Our Plane
    what you wrote about the taiwanese girls are not that really true !!!
    At least not all ~!!
    However I think all of that happened in both mainland and Taiwan.Com'on~~~
  • Save Our Planet
    Nina,

    About Taiwanese Girls vs Chinese Girls, it was a (转发) from Internet. Please take it lightheartedly.

    But frankly, my experience with Taiwanese girl was pretty good. They are polite, sweet, considerate and unselfish. Sorry I have to say that.
  • kö
    wrote:
    一个好的标题 往往到最后就吵起来了··诶··可怜的Ryan···
  • wrote:
    Save our world,

    We can stop discussing this thread and some controversial topics, but I agree that you know more about China and some other sides that common people do not have opportunities to know. If I say they are too young to talk some matters happened in China or in the world, but I will be attacked again for my straightforwardness. Do you have photos of your private jet, you can upload and let me see, haha
  • Save Our Planet
    Sun,

    if I show the photos, all the girls will jump on me. Believe or not. :-)
  • kö
    wrote:
    行不行 两大男人在这 互掐···(⊙o⊙)…
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet ,

    Do not care about those material girls, I just want to see those pictures, haha
    At least, you will be the first one I know who have private jet, haha
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    Save Our Planet is a friend of Steven Ritter?
  • G
    G wrote:
    牛头马嘴之争
  • Escade
    Escade wrote:
    @ Save Our Planet:
    U wrote:'if I show the photos, all the girls will jump on me. Believe or not. :-) '
    what's kind of 'JET' of yr business? is it an aircraft or motor boat? or airline tkts???
    In HKG, the motor boat named 'Turbo Jet' plys between Hongkong & Macau.'JET' is also a name for an airline from Idian who had terminated their business in the beginning of 2009 in Shanghai ...whatever u sell what's kind of JET,it is NO ANY DIFFERENTS with somebody sells the golf set or other things,all are sales agents nothing more...so do not show yr any superiority feelings here! we are all making our extra efforts to make our life better in different jobs now.Money is power,if u could earn a lot,u could be calle 'powerful...'!

    As a 'guest' while u visit to some house,u must obey some rules of house host,likes the moive'Georgia Rules': if u want to stay tz house u must obey host's rules;if u do not want to leave(no place to go) but cannot adapt host's rules,just put a fancy soap into yr mouth...just an instance,do not flare up...

    People need to respect each other because we are from the SAME PLANET:show our respects to the people wherever he or she comes from,especially u metioned 'Iran' & 'N Korea' ,the only differnece is we are from the different places.Pls do not discriminate against them coz we r from the same planet,they should be respected n also saved UNDER UR HELP!

    P.S. i hate "要饭还嫌饭馊'的人!!!

    Hope u good luck in yr business n also hv good mood erveryday as we feel u r so 'GREY'...Wish u will catch a suprised contract also!...
  • Efaney Lee
    Efaney Lee wrote:
    中文不错!!!

    她爸挺过分的!!!

    你说明你的想法就行了

    让你女朋友的爸爸明白你的意思!!!
  • wrote:
    Save Our Planet,

    http://www.ccthere.com/thread/2653100
    Look at your polite and prettier Taiwanese woman, haha
  • Minger
    Minger wrote:
    Ryan,希望你到最后能告诉我们你们怎么想处理。
  • 叮噹叔叔 (令狐叮噹)
    ...

    哈哈...Ryan已经不再理这个了...你们还在这个废墟里面玩?
  • 王经纬
    王经纬 wrote:
    只能再次祝福LZ,理想总是很丰满,现实总是很骨感!阿弥陀佛
  • Ataahua
    Ataahua wrote:

    ryan~~~~~~你真是个实在人,你岳父岳母太正常了,他们对中国女婿也那样。不知道你这个女婿当得怎么样了,哈哈~~~~~~~有空上来报道下,也让大家对跨国婚姻有点信心

  • Deep忖
    Deep忖 wrote:

    ata如果没有显示错,应该是两年多前的帖?他如果运气好,现在已经能抱着孩子看回复了。明年的这个时候,就可以因为孩子到底该上哪所幼儿园再和岳父打一架。幸福得让人羡慕啊。

  • Ataahua
    Ataahua wrote:

    希望是这样。。。但也可能相反,哈哈~~~~~被别有用心的中国老婆甩了,变成跟astaroth叔叔一样不成气候的垃圾

  • WeLiveInBeijingRess

    这样的中国父母不少见,娶我吧,我爸比他爸强多了,我爸给我存钱等我以后结了婚给我买嫁妆,车,家具,他的幻想是男方要买房子等等,但是不管怎么样都是老传统,但是我妈就是你形容的那一种,她跟我说你要是不让男方给我买个房子,他打你你都没娘家回,我肯定一点都不把他当回事,但是大多数中国女孩不能挣脱父母的管束,即使年纪已经很大了

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