agree with the great title, we chinese women also make whatever we would like to. wahaha
Thanks Steven! for your advertisement for Chinese women.
And I'm glad you haven't found bad sides about them so far...:-)
I was just about to leave the office until I read your post, then I feel I have to say something...
Steve, could you find an American girl in 20s or 30s when you are 58? I bet you can't. And that's partly why you choose girls from developing countries. And you can find even younger girls in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos or Thailand. You think many Chinese women choose you for love? How about you change your face to an old Chinese man with no wealth at all, then test their love towards you...
Now the big dillemma is to find the right girl/woman to come to America to love and make the family/good wife..not for the coveted "green card"...how does a man know the true intentions of the Chinese woman...
You may never know the truth for her intention. We are actors and actress in daily life stage. Your intelligence is not enough to figure it out what is acting part and what not.
Maybe I had wrong breakfast this morning and became too emotional...
It may be a little weird, but I agree with both sides here. When is a relationship only about love anyway. Wether we admit it or not people need other people for various things. It may be beauty, money, friendship, love, security, etc... there is always something we are after. I hold love to be very important to me, but I am not going to fool myself into thinking I do not look at beauty when I am looking for a mate. I do think that Chinese women are amongst the most beautiful to me, but I know that I need to look deeper than beauty in order to find my match. I dated a couple of Chinese girls who's families had money, so there was no reason for them to want me for a green card. I do think they were too young though because they were so infatuated with me, for whatever reason, and would not give me any space at all. If I find an independant Chinese woman I will keep her if I can. Is it bad for a foreigner to want a Chinese woman? I plan to settle down in China so what kind of woman should I have? I think what Steven was trying to say is that the Chinese woman's mindset is inline with what he is looking for at this point in his life. It is not his fault that very young an beautiful Chinese girls do not have a problem going for an older man with money, just like it is not anyone's fault if older independent women with money like to find young studs to give them a good time with no strings attatched (I am not reffering to myself.) People have their own perogatives when it comes to finding mates. Although I also get were you are comming from Maria. Although I think an older guy can also find a young woman in the United States because they represent stability and security. It just so happens that he Steven wishes to provide stability and security to a Chinese girl. I see old Chinese guys walking around with beautiful young women on their arms all the time. It is probably because they can provide security. I also like to think of relationships between men and women as romanticized fairytales where evolution does not apply and love decides everything, however I think it is more like a balance between the two. Having experience with western women I can say that I have yet to be challenged and they bore me. Chinese women however intruigue me to no end. I just hope I am worthy of getting the type of Chinese girl I want in the future.
The reason is simple why Steven does not go to the other developing countries to find a younger woman. It is because he is not just looking for a younger woman. He is looking for the worldview, beauty, intelligence,values etc... that he feels Chinese women seem to have the right combination of. Why go to other Asian countries to get a replica when he can come to China and get the real deal.
Steven do not play around with their hearts man. Let them know exactly what you want from the beginning and you should have no problems with finding a great partner.
Why would we (WLIB) delete this thread? It's not in violation of our Terms & Conditions.
"i don't even know if this is true maybe steven doesn't even exist its maybe a fake article post by the website cause i never heard so many bullshit."
I'm going to make some popcorn and watch this trainwreck of a thread unfold. We've got a guy pouring out his soul, we've got cultural stereotypes, we've got smears against women and all sorts of misguided bullshit.
I wonder why a person at the age of 57, and divorced already two times (from an American and Russian) still looking for a perfect wife...There is no "perfect wife". Good luck, anyway!
Everyone has their right to persue happiness and if a great wife is the thing that will make Steven happy then so be it. Now that we got the discrepancies cleared up he should not need to defend himself about it. It was clearly our misinterpretation of his intentions that made the thread ugly, however we have expressed our views on some pretty good issues regarding marriage and finding a mate. Everyone has his/her own ideas about what a perfect mate is and if we were to express those ideas I am sure many people would disagree with us. Of course not all Chinese girls are well educated, but as we know he is not looking for an uneducated one. I find that a problem with conversation is that people tend to often take what they hear at face value instead of taking the time to think about the subtext. What are the fundamental values that Steven is looking for in a woman? NO matter what we heard if you look at the things he said and strip away the generalizations and you will understand that even though not all Chinese women have the values he seeks he explains what he is looking for. Many the come backs to his posts are missing the points. I am not defending him, but I often have the same problems when trying to understand peoples thoughts. I also sometimes get caught up in arguing about what I find is wrong with the ideas they express instead of listining to what they are saying about themselves in the subtext.
Well, Blue Cartoon guy/girl, My name is Masha (Маша) not Marsha. haha. Steven, I like when you say, we are never too old to correct our mistakes! I wish you good luck! ;-).
I am going to ignore the pathetic things I've read on this thread, and focus on "the perfect wife" aspect.
I've never been married and I don't want to get married. Regardless, a "perfect wife" really depends on the individual. What are you looking for? What do you want? Whatever it is you can probably find it anywhere if you look hard enough.
Do Chinese girls make the perfect wife? Well, I have many friends (both Chinese and foreign) who would say yes. And I have others ( including an American who is embroiled in a child custody battle with his ex) who will tell you to stay away from Chinese girls at all costs.
The point is, its the girl, not her nationality that counts.
Steven, perhaps I was over reacted a little bit, because your tone and the way you described your experiences with Chinese girls really make me uncomfortable.
I am a Chinese woman and am sensitive when I hear that some really old American guy tells me that "I had resourses and my Chinese wife will be able to travel the world for free the rest of her life(and kids to 25) " or "I had paid for her last year in college in Chengdu. " something like that. Yes, it made me uncomfortable and the weird nationalism haunted me again! That's why I responded your post in that way.
I can sense that you are serious about your relationships with Chinese women from your other posts and I try very hard to convince myself that those Chinese girls are crazy about your charm not something related to your American background and wealth.
Kodi said, a relationship is not just about love; it contains various things. And I have to say, Kodi, you've finally understood the "essence" of Chinese marriage, and which is the dark side of our society.
Steven, you describe Chinese women as "they are typically well educated, beautiful, very cultured, place a high emphasis on their childrens education and progress, high respect for the husband, the parents, resourceful, money saving, and the family. Additionally, they are fun, loving, and kind, and yes, make the m,ost beautiful babies..."
Those are the qualities you find in Chinese women. Perhaps it partly true, but is that so difficult to find the same thing back to your country? Based on statistics, American women should have higher education level than Chinese women. And they are funny, beautiful, respecting to their partners. When they have children, they would love to sacrifice their jobs to look after them and when the kids grow up, they go for their career and be independent again. American women are great. So do other countries' women.
Like Peter said, "The point is, its the girl, not her nationality that counts."
So stop saying American men is the best (in another thread) and Chinese women are perfect wives. And try to focus on being "perfect husband" instead of seeking " perfect wife"...
Good luck to your third marriage!
Hahaha ... I am sure there is a course about Australian Literature, though not available in China ... lunch time